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Quote: mick wilson "Do the math Dico,

TOTAL GUESSIMATE HERE

2500 members paying a pound per week

Alright alright icon_razz.gif
Ive just never heard of a League club running a lottery before.
Nice money spinner, reminds me of those government bond things

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: Dico "Alright alright
Most if not all clubs run some kind of lottery

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Yep, I thought virtually every club had some kind of lottery (or variant) nowadays.

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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



People need to just realise that unless one club becomes good enough on it's own then It won't happen, I would love a team from this area of the country, expansion of super league into a rugby league hot bed can only be a good thing, look what happened with Catalans. Barrow have the best chance of doing it and IMO the only thing stopping them is the stadium, if they can get that sorted they will get bigger crowds which will put them above, quins, Salford, Celtic and would justify a place in super league. Before we put them in we would need to put in place some scouting structure to make sure they get all the best talent from the area so they compete on the field and the club does its bit for RL as a whole rather than buying foreign players.

Saying all this, I am sick to death of people saying "we need a RL franchise in cumbria" no we don't, it would be nice, but RL in this country does not depend on it.

My overall opinion though is that I would love for Barrow to be in super league. Eventually I would like to see.

Wigan
Leeds
Hull FC
Saints
Bradford
Warrington
Hull KR
Castleford
Catalans

All playing in modern stadia with averages over 10,000 average gates and the top clubs getting much more than that even 20,000.

Hudds
Wakey
Quins
Widnes
Halifax
Toulouse
Barrow

All fighting out to be bigger and better clubs to get into that top 9.

Celtic
Salford
and the rest of the clubs in the championship and championship 1 fighting it out for a liscence for super league or the second tier, we need more competition to get into super league and the championship IMO.

I personally think Barrow could help shape the future of RL and give the much smaller clubs hope that they could one day be up there in super league.

At the same time none of this will come around without a better product and bigger crowds, time will tell.

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merge the top three leagues into two, SL and Championship.

Barrow should stay as they are (they have the finances)
but
Whitehaven and Workington should be merged into a Cumbrian side along with any other semi pro side. for the good of the game.

and lets try to get north wales in on the action in the not too distant future

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: Wire_Yed "merge the top three leagues into two, SL and Championship.

Barrow should stay as they are (they have the finances)
but
Whitehaven and Workington should be merged into a Cumbrian side along with any other semi pro side. for the good of the game.

and lets try to get north wales in on the action in the not too distant future'"


Utter bollox

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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



Quote: Wire_Yed "merge the top three leagues into two, SL and Championship.

Barrow should stay as they are (they have the finances)
but
Whitehaven and Workington should be merged into a Cumbrian side along with any other semi pro side. for the good of the game.

and lets try to get north wales in on the action in the not too distant future'"


Don't be stupid! Why don't Warrington and Widnes merge for the good of the game then? They are rivals, fans do not want to merge, it cannot be done!

Let them sort it out by themselves and the RFL can help them where needed. As it stands Barrow have what it takes to get into super league if they can get a new stadium or upgrade the exisiting one.

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Quote: Odemwingie "Don't be stupid! Why don't Warrington and Widnes merge for the good of the game then? They are rivals, fans do not want to merge, it cannot be done!

Let them sort it out by themselves and the RFL can help them where needed. As it stands Barrow have what it takes to get into super league if they can get a new stadium or upgrade the exisiting one.'"


The reason is Warrington and Widnes can pull the crowds unlike the Cumbrian sides.
If a professional side can't pull regular 4 figure crowds let alone 5 then what is the point seriously.
2,987 was the record crowd for a local derby Whitehaven v Barrow.

Whitehaven average crowd for the whole season 1,670
Workington average crowd for the whole season 468
2138 combined
flogging a dead horse for the sake of
0.0033 % of the population

Quote: Odemwingie "
Utter bollox'"

is that because you'd fear for the professional status of Leigh ?
average att 1,984 which to be fair is almost the same as 2 Cumbrian sides combined

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Quote: Wire_Yed "
2,987 was the record crowd for a local derby Whitehaven v Barrow.

'"


You clearly have no idea of the geography of Cumbria if you think Whitehaven v Barrow is a local derby. They're approximately 50 miles apart.

By your logic, then Warrington v Bradford is a local derby too.

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when the score got to 50 we shouted for more, up popped brad davis went over for four..... ......and its no nay never no nay never no more will we face religation...... big barrie mac.' the cas forads av been bob on' [quote="chissitt":3gx4tjo6]Pyeman I wish you would stop talking so much sense. I am in danger of becomming one of your biggest fans. :lol:[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="vastman":3gx4tjo6]Westerman looks the most promising for a long time.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Leyther_Matt":3gx4tjo6]The best proper 'rugby pub' in the country has to be the Boot Room at Cas[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Bolton_Warrior":3gx4tjo6]The only time I ever doubted going to watch Wigan was when we bare face cheated to stay in superleague[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Danril":3gx4tjo6] Last night, despite being poor and not deserving the win, we should have won.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [img:3gx4tjo6]http://www.rlfans.com/images/sigs/castigers.gif[/img:3gx4tjo6]:32116.jpg



Quote: Dico "Alright alright :lol:[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="vastman":3gx4tjo6]Westerman looks the most promising for a long time.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Leyther_Matt":3gx4tjo6]The best proper 'rugby pub' in the country has to be the Boot Room at Cas[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Bolton_Warrior":3gx4tjo6]The only time I ever doubted going to watch Wigan was when we bare face cheated to stay in superleague[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Danril":3gx4tjo6] Last night, despite being poor and not deserving the win, we should have won.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [img:3gx4tjo6]http://www.rlfans.com/images/sigs/castigers.gif[/img:3gx4tjo6]:32116.jpg



Quote: Wire_Yed "for both clubs fans that would be the game they'd look out for though when the league kicked off'"


There was a time when wire were struggling to pull in decent crowds, even though they were in super league and alot of clubs were nearer and brought more fans. Congratulations to wire for making such a vast improvement on attendances but dont look down on other clubs who's circumstances havent been so favorable and tell them they should merge as at this time they arent pulling in alot of supporters. Mergers are terrible ideas that always (in this country) result in one club dying, and thats the last thing rl needs.

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Quote: nadera78 "Absolutely no-one involved in this development is talking about merging Workington and Whitehaven.

What they are saying is that neither town can support a team in SL and that if the area wants a team at the top level, and the game wants the area to be represented at the top level, then a new team would be the only sensible proposal. That new team could play in SL, out of the proposed new stadium, and draw on the considerable latent support that exists for RL in West Cumbria. Which would leave town and haven to continue as they are at a sustainable level.

So can everyone please stop juddying the water by talking about mergers? That only winds people up and stops the actual proposal being talked about in a sensible, rational manner.'"


So this ' new ' team would be watched by who exactly ? , not Haven fans , Not Town fans , definatley not barrow fans ,,Barmy

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: Wire_Yed "The reason is Warrington and Widnes can pull the crowds unlike the Cumbrian sides.
If a professional side can't pull regular 4 figure crowds let alone 5 then what is the point seriously.
2,987 was the record crowd for a local derby Whitehaven v Barrow.

Whitehaven average crowd for the whole season 1,670
Workington average crowd for the whole season 468
2138 combined
flogging a dead horse for the sake of
0.0033 % of the population


is that because you'd fear for the professional status of Leigh ?
average att 1,984 which to be fair is almost the same as 2 Cumbrian sides combined'"


In this post you highlight why barrow are not anywhere near ready for SL because of their lack of support , No club that cannot pull in the 4,000 ave that Widnes get outside SL is strong enough to enter a franchised SL

As for Leigh's Future , I have long ago accepted it will not be in SL , and the fact Leigh are not in Cumbria seems to make them not relevant to this thread

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