Where this aggression comes from, I do not know. You can't live your life bathed in the shallow waters of bitterness.

I think you need to get a sense of perspective. A sense of humour is key to a happy and fulfilled life. And laughing at yourself is a major part of that. So I promise, from now on, to spend as much time as I can laughing at yourself.

It's the least I can do.

it's everything to do with this thread

players at Crusaders when they played at the start of the clubs creation until not long ago,that is to say when Cru played in the Championship and players who helped them into SL ie CHAMPIONSHIP EXPANSION (see the connection ?) are still owed money and seem to have no chance of ever getting it.I bet you would be really happy if your employers didn't pay your wages and I bet you would be even happier that no legal process is in place to get some kind of compensation ? - how would you expect to feed your family ?
The players you have been following and cheering on over the past few seasons,if you're a Cru fan and any players ftrom other struggling clubs should be ensured some kind of payment/compensation when the club goes t**s up,don't you think ?
Other workers have protection,why not RL players ?

I agree that players should get some sort of protection but that's not a subject I am too interested in, nor could I care less about Crusaders and their financial hardships, and nor does this have anything whatsoever to do with the topic at hand. As far as I can tell the only reason you are persisting with this is because you misinterpreted my original comment, jumped the gun and reacted based on the mistaken belief that I have some sort of affinity to Crusaders or any other club. If you really want to have a discussion about Crusaders then start a new thread, I probably won't contribute because those sorts of threads are almost always extremely tedious.

sorry to be 'tedious' - it's just one of my many attributes...

so,to answer my original question - if the frrech clubs area no-no in the Championship,what are the Scorpions doing that's any better ? or is that also too 'tedious' for you to respond to ?

Rugby league players get exactly the same kind of "protection" as any other employee in this country. If the company I work for goes bust I don't get paid either.

French clubs already have a semi-pro league to play in. Therefore having one team playing in another semi-pro league, especially one that requires much higher travelling costs, is pointless. French teams should either be in the semi-pro Elite league, or the full-time Super League. Having them in the Championship achieves nothing as it's no step up in terms of the infrastructure of the club. Scorpions are a semi-pro team and are thus playing in the relevant semi-pro competition. They don't have anything to do with Toulouse or any other French teams.

but that company is allowed to re-form under a different administrative set up and bear no responsabilities to ex staff ?

unless they win promotion ?

or,TO13 get relegated when their stupid exemption clause runs out ?

In terms of their status in the competition, they have nothing to do with TO. Their situations are in no way similar and it wasn't a relevant comparison to make.

Aggression ?

Not much of that in my last post , as for the rest of yours , well it looks and sounds very much ' stalkerish ' to me , enjoy

It isn't often we agree , but on the subject of Toulouse in the Championship , I concur , I would be much happier if the money spent flying players and staff over the channel was spent on building up one or two new British based Championship clubs

so then,what have the Scorpions or LSK contributed so far ? apart from saving loadsamoney on travelling expenses that is ?

They have contributed by putting awareness of RL in areas there wasn't before , and have enabled players in those areas to play RL to a much higher standard than they could have done previously , they have done this without considerable extra costs from central funds

great,sounds just like the french story then !

Except Toulouse have been playing since 1937 , and as Headhunter posted , they have a perfectly good local competition of similar standard to the Championship that they have and can play in to prepare for any future SL application , so there are hardly any similarities at all

No, absolutely nothing like having French teams in the Championship. If you are unable to understand that there is nothing to be gained from moving a semi-pro team from one semi-pro league to another, then that's your problem.

not a problem for me mate - i'm quite happy watching the LER - FCL and others have been great this season with some decent crowds that would put the Championship to shame - the problem is with the RFL who seem to want to do the expanding bit.Ask them why they want the french teams involved ?
FCL (playing in Narbonne) have made a bid for some kind of Championship representation along with Toulouse so it's in the hands of the RFL it would seem ?

Which would be totally pointless

The RFL is not known for it's bright ideas so nothing would surprise me !

The FFR is just as bad in many respects - for example,

this weekend is the play-off game between FCL & Pia - it KOs at 1730 with a junior game at 1530 - it just so happens that Catalans v Hudds KOs at 1830 ! which means that if the FCL game KOd at 1500 ish then there would be at least 1000 more for the Cats game,about one hours drive away - totally ridiculous planning !
also,the French GF is at Narbonne on the 14th may which clashes exactly with the TO v Hunslet game - another ridiculous decision by Mr Larrat and his cronies...

It's not the same company it's a different one, and that happens when a company goes into administration. Rugby league players are no different and have no less rights than any other employee in the UK when their company goes into administration.

ah,ok thanks for that

the rules are obviously different in france

Is it really that hard to comprehend that if Toulouse weren't in the Championship they'd be in another similarly strong French semi-pro league, but if Scorpions weren't, they'd either be amateur or non-existent?

There is no real logical comparison at all except that they aren't English. There'd be more logical a comparison between Scorpions and Skolars.

Don't get me wrong I'd agree with you that employees should be paid and the rules around administration in the UK shouldn't be as weak but rugby players are just as unprotected as any other employees here, sadly.

Did anyone read/see this ? bit.ly/jXg2oB Limerick Leprechauns ? At least people will have 5 years to bitch and moan about it before it happens.

Did anyone read/see this ? bit.ly/jXg2oB Limerick Leprechauns ? At least people will have 5 years to bitch and moan about it before it happens.

Quote ="Paull3v"Did anyone read/see this ? bit.ly/jXg2oB Limerick Leprechauns ? At least people will have 5 years to bitch and moan about it before it happens.'" That is so far fetched. Being from Northern Ireland myself I can say there isn't any part of the island ready for a championship team never mind a super league team. The upside to that article is they are doing work in the real world, working to expand the Irish player base. Which should have positives in the long. Especially if they can find a few more players like Tim Bergin who has been doing reasonably well.

Quote ="Paull3v"Did anyone read/see this ? bit.ly/jXg2oB Limerick Leprechauns ? At least people will have 5 years to bitch and moan about it before it happens.'" That is so far fetched. Being from Northern Ireland myself I can say there isn't any part of the island ready for a championship team never mind a super league team. The upside to that article is they are doing work in the real world, working to expand the Irish player base. Which should have positives in the long. Especially if they can find a few more players like Tim Bergin who has been doing reasonably well.