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| Quote: ABP' "It isn't more Rugby League. It's a time slot that's usually occupied by two pro/semi pro Rugby League sides trying acheive something in their respective league. Tonight it's been replaced with two, low standard university sides in a one off game where the teams' players mainly come from Union backgrounds, hyped up because it's Oxford and Cambridge.
I just don't see the excitement. I can't see why so many people are out raged
It's Oxford V Cambridge. Supposedly learned men knocking lumps out of each other. Nothing wrong with that. Put it on the telly. Well done.
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| Quote: ABP' "It isn't more Rugby League. It's a time slot that's usually occupied by two pro/semi pro Rugby League sides trying acheive something in their respective league. Tonight it's been replaced with two, low standard university sides in a one off game where the teams' players mainly come from Union backgrounds, hyped up because it's Oxford and Cambridge.
I just don't see the excitement. I can't see why so many people are out raged
I don't know if the players mostly come from union backgrounds.
I have a few mates who are at cambridge and 3 of them played rugby league up until last year. And thats just from my college. I know at least one of them tried for the Uni team last year and didn't get picked so presumably they have more than enough League players to get a team together without having to try and convert union lads.
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| Quote: ABP' "It isn't more Rugby League. It's a time slot that's usually occupied by two pro/semi pro Rugby League sides trying acheive something in their respective league. '"
Yes, but all those semi-pro RL sides are playing in the Challenge Cup this weekend, which Sky doesn't have the rights to show. So they have to show something else. The tv ratings for this game were slightly higher than many of the championship games last year, so presumably Sky are happy to keep showing it. There are several hundred thousand Oxbridge graduates out there who might take an interest in this game. My father-in-law was an Oxford Don. The only other RL games he'd make an effort to watch would be internationals.
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| Its a source of constant amusement and amazement to me,watching people ask questions, and then when they don't get the reply they expect..... ignore the replies!
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There is no Championship game for Sky to show, so rather than show a game from last week, they pick up a game which - while being totally meaningless to a lot of us - shows that
1) RL is not an oiks game
2) Is more entertaining than 'other' sports traditionally associated with Oxbridge.
The alternative of course is that they could have given the space over to enduro space hopper racing or something else, which would have set the barking off in style on here....
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| Wigan have managed a run of 4 unbeaten games. Their fans are now too good for SL and certainly too good for something as nondescript as the 2 most famous universities in the country (maybe the world), going head to head at rugby league.
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "
Instead I will just ask, WTF is your problem? I mean, just look at the example of college football in the States, where for example a packed sellout stadium of 20K or more might and regularly do watch some basically meaningless game between colleges, in scenes reminiscent of the Superbowl. That game will inevitably be televised, and will in comparison to the pro game be of obvious and unmistakeable amateur standard.
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Try crowds of 50k to 100k and you'd be closer to the mark. There are 11 college football stadiums with a greater capacity than the largest NFL stadium. College football does get bigger crowds and I suspect the TV viewing figures aren't that different. College football is massive in the States and although it's played by young men, the standard is not even remotely amateurish. These kids can play. In fact, I find college football more entertaining than the NFL because it's more open and free flowing. Oh, and the games are in no way meaningless to the players, the colleges, the fans (and multitude of people betting on them ![Wink icon_wink.gif](images/smilies//icon_wink.gif) ). There's a reason that College football coaches get paid as much as if not more than NFL coaches. They are moulding the future of the game and attracting a load of money to the colleges.
Sorry to go off on a tangent but it's comparing apples to oranges.
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| Leeds Trinity Titans would put 40+ on either of these two teams...
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| Quote: Wadski "A lad from Huddersfield (a Giants fan and a member on here) is playing for one of the teams. Not sure which!'"
Oxford, he's the club president too. Mind he has been known to dabble in union in the past ![Shoot Poster a026.gif](images/smilies//a026.gif)
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| As far as im aware only the RU, Rowing and RL are televised in the Oxbridge contests.
Surely people can see the advantages of being in that category? The fact that given our history, geography and tradition the fact that there is an Oxbridge game is fantastic. For it to be televised is even better.
To compare its value to Dewsbury v Leigh is narrow minded at best, ignorance at worst.
Events like this have influence. Its for the same reason I would love to see a world sevens/9s series of some sort too.
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| Sky are showing it to fill the absence of lower league action caused by the Challenge Cup weekend. So I'm not seeing the argument in this thread at all.
Their is Thursday Night Co-Op league or Rail Cup action every week on Sky from next week until September 16th with the only exceptions being April 16th (Challenge Cup 4th Round) and July 15th (showing the Rail Cup final on the Sunday) - sol their is plenty to look forward to.
This Oxford v Cambridge match is not my cup of tea - but its better than nowt!
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| American Football ( NFL ) is structured so that pretty much all it's players go through college football to play at the top level. I'd say a handful of players over god knows how many years have made transition from SRL to Super league. By 18 they are already in a super league academy, and probably not going to Uni in that case.
If RL had a draft system from Uni's i'm sure we'd see more interest in it. I think SRL is played at a quick pace. Skill level isn't too great. A lot of union converts, but that's not a bad thing.
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39110_1363272058.jpg Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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| Quote: spooky "Try crowds of 50k to 100k and you'd be closer to the mark. There are 11 college football stadiums with a greater capacity than the largest NFL stadium. College football does get bigger crowds and I suspect the TV viewing figures aren't that different. College football is massive in the States and although it's played by young men, the standard is not even remotely amateurish. These kids can play. In fact, I find college football more entertaining than the NFL because it's more open and free flowing. Oh, and the games are in no way meaningless to the players, the colleges, the fans (and multitude of people betting on them
Thanks, saved me the trouble
Although it is annoying that some sports are bigger than rugby league at a lower level!
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| Quote: spooky "Try crowds of 50k to 100k and you'd be closer to the mark. There are 11 college football stadiums with a greater capacity than the largest NFL stadium. College football does get bigger crowds and I suspect the TV viewing figures aren't that different. College football is massive in the States and although it's played by young men, the standard is not even remotely amateurish. These kids can play. In fact, I find college football more entertaining than the NFL because it's more open and free flowing. Oh, and the games are in no way meaningless to the players, the colleges, the fans (and multitude of people betting on them
But it's not. Are you saying that from the first day college football started, they instantly got 50K crowds and played to an almost pro standard?
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| Quote: Cheshire Tiger "As far as im aware only the RU, Rowing and RL are televised in the Oxbridge contests.
Surely people can see the advantages of being in that category? The fact that given our history, geography and tradition the fact that there is an Oxbridge game is fantastic. For it to be televised is even better.
To compare its value to Dewsbury v Leigh is narrow minded at best, ignorance at worst.
Events like this have influence. Its for the same reason I would love to see a world sevens/9s series of some sort too.'" you say it has influence.i'll say this fixture has been going 30years & nothing has changed.my examples are quinns & skolars.
by the way.i watched tonights game & it was by far more entertaining than 3 of the 4 SL games i've seen this season & yes i know there was a lot of mistakes.
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "But it's not. Are you saying that from the first day college football started, they instantly got 50K crowds and played to an almost pro standard?'"
Yes to the crowds. No to the "pro standard" because there wasn't a pro league at the time. For the earliest days of the pro league, college football was considered the higher tier of quality.
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