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Quote: cas all the way "And you truly outplayed us at wembley. Class you were. Pitty you didnt play like that a few week back.'"


Why? We came top. Makes no difference.

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Im kidding I just love the reaction of fans. We all know Leeds are too good for the rest of Superleague and there is no point the rest of us playing. May as well move Leeds to the NRL I say.

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Quote: ThePrinter "Apart from the near 3 quarters of the game when you were out scored 24-6.

Cas were deserved winners, but it wasn't easy and I doubt at 24-24 with 10 to go many Cas fans thought "we don't look like we'll lose"'"


Aww let him have this one. They don't get many! I remember them all rolling up to HQ to see their boys steam-roller our team made up of kids and antipodeans as the rest were on International duty. We all know how badly that ended for them! Was a great night though! icon_wink.gif

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Leeds haven't reinvented anything. We're just trying to play to our strengths of an offloading game with good outside backs. If anything I'd say its working this year in part because of Cuthbertson, but also because it being the last year for a few they aren't leaving anything in the tank. Wembley hopefully won't have the same impact as last year either.

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Leeds style of play is great to watch but it's risky IMO (fair play to them for taking those risks). In the last two games with us Leeds have kept us in them by throwing the ball around and coming up with errors which we have picked off. Every other team that seems to have had success against us this year has done it on the back of dismantling a set of props at Wigan that have nothing about them.

Leeds style of play will cost them some games they should be winning (like the two against us) but there's every chance it can also click and teams get blown away as Wire did on Friday.

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Warrington played a similar style in 2011 and scored in excess of 1000 points. But only picked up the LLS.

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I'd like to give a shout to Danny McGuire. No one really seems to rate him that highly, but for me, I don't think there's a better 1/2 in SL for playing with his head up and instantly evaluating what's in front of him.

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Quote: Offside Monkey "I'd like to give a shout to Danny McGuire. No one really seems to rate him that highly, but for me, I don't think there's a better 1/2 in SL for playing with his head up and instantly evaluating what's in front of him.'"


McGuire seems unpopular among non-leeds fans (and let's not even go there with Wigan fans) no doubt as he's a bit whingy. They also seem to dismiss him as either simply "overrated" or "just a support player" (which hasn't been valid for about 5 years)

However most Leeds fans would say he's a player whos game has changed and developed as he's aged (partly to compensate for losing his pace). He's arguably played the best rugby of his career over the last 2-3 seasons. For the last year or so he's been far and away our most important half (even more so than sir kev).

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Quote: Omar Little "McGuire seems unpopular among non-leeds fans (and let's not even go there with Wigan fans) no doubt as he's a bit whingy. They also seem to dismiss him as either simply "overrated" or "just a support player" (which hasn't been valid for about 5 years)

However most Leeds fans would say he's a player whos game has changed and developed as he's aged (partly to compensate for losing his pace). He's arguably played the best rugby of his career over the last 2-3 seasons. For the last year or so he's been far and away our most important half (even more so than sir kev).'"


He's a bit more than a support player these days, last season and this season seems to read the game very well and has contributed a lot to the Leeds team.

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i've always rated McGuire, bit of a tool but a very good player

always thought he's was better than sinfield but what do i know?

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Very underated by some Leeds fans still who don't appreciate how good he still is. IMHO he's the one we'll miss most when out of all of the 'golden generation'.

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Quote: Judder Man "He's a bit more than a support player these days, last season and this season seems to read the game very well and has contributed a lot to the Leeds team.'"


Tbf, the support player tag is a lazy accusation. Even when he was scoring try's for fun in his early days he was often scoring tries off support play when it was actually him who created the original break for somebody else.

Some Wigan fans, in particular, have an unhealthy dislike of him. The fact that he is still a danger contributes to the continued stick he gets

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Quote: knockersbumpMKII "Leeds are exploiting the micturate poor tackling technique that came into the game some years back to stop the offload/slow the PTB down, as seen every single weekend forwards/backs are always able to offload more often than not even with 3 players around them.
Tackle correctly, bring the player to the ground instead of fannying around grabbing the chest/shoulders etc which is so limited in its effectiveness anyway as all players not just forwards can still make more yards or just break free in a 'tackle bust' and still offload which leeds do with aplomb.
It's this aspect of the sport that has dragged the game backwards, requiring bigger and stronger forwards to counter the upper & lower body strength that enables players to just push would be tacklers off/get an arm free.

If you as a coach were playing the % game then using the classic tackle technique actually lowers the amount of offload/yards gained - watch when it is done (there are some very good exponents within our game) and note how few offloads there by comparison to the grab tackle and the limited yards made.
it also commits less players to the tackle so the offshoot of that is less chance of overlap, fewer players out of the defensive line at the PTB and fewer offloads, especially ones that are 'unexpected' from say a 3 or even 4 man tackle.

What Leeds are doing isn't rocket science, it's recognising in a very logical way how to beat the opposition, drumming into the players their role the tactics and probably they have a sports psychologist too so that they have a belief in the system and what their role as individuals are. They are coached/trained in a way that come match day it's like second nature.

It's just being very professional from top to bottom in a way that exploits the opposing coaches weaknesses in thought/understanding. It helps having very good players on board too, it's breath of fresh air and is very much like the great teams of the past playing with a combination of power & guile.
Teams have played like this to a degree in recent times and they find it more enjoyable to play and this has a knock on positive effect in all aspects of your performance.'"


Not a good understanding of the modern game as per Hims post.

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If you tackle round the legs every time as suggested you'd give away massive yardage and quick PTBs every set, probably with plenty of penalties for stopping the attacking player getting up. I do think that more halfbacks ought to try it though, as its an effective way of bringing down a bigger man.

It was interesting watching SBW against the Wallabies last week. The Wallabies seemed to deliberately tackle him round the legs. They gave away a few yards doing it, but avoided him sucking defenders into the tackle and getting a pass away - made him look pretty average in fact (although its partly because he really isn't a great centre).

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Just the two knock on tries tonight then.

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