you had a cup of tea today? a chocolate bar? Coca Cola? anything which contained chillis? eggs? Cheese? Poultry? energy drinks?

Drug addiction is a disease, an isolated incident of taking a drug isnt.

Following rules simply because they are rules and treating the consequences of that as irrelevant is what has led to some of the most appalling and abhorrent acts of humanity in history.

Ive stuck pretty much every drug around in me, its what people with money going spare do. Do I think you should get a 2 year ban for cocaine use? definately not. Id certainly allow him to train with them as long as he cant play.
FWIW steroid use should be a 5 year ban imo

Nope.

You clearly have though. I'd lay off those e numbers if I were you.

sounds like a particularly interesting diet you have there.

I think you mean 'Sounds like a particularly HEALTHY diet you have there'


If you have managed to consume a cup of tea, a chocolate bar, Coca Cola, anything which contains chillis, eggs, Cheese, Poultry and energy drinks today I strongly suggest you pay a visit to your local dietician.

is there a particular reason I cant have a cup of tea today? or is it everyday?

or did you not know that the . on the bottom of a ? is a full stop, indicating the end of a sentence and you didnt realise each item was listed as a separate question and you got yourself all confused and thought i was asking if you had had them all?

It happens all the time with Baz, Smokey.

What he said

Did the ban specify this though? If so, then, even though I am a Wigan fan, he should serve it out.

even if it does get rejected. What stops wigan having a chat with his personal trainer and informing them what hock needs to do?

I think the good work hock has done within education will look good for him here. Madge will certainly improve his game and a firing gareth hock will be incredibly dangerous to handle for the aussies in the autumn!

Should that include a ban on alcohol, then?

I agree with this.

If not a life ban then the punishment should be more severe. It's baffling the punishment for recreational drug use and performance enhancing drug use is the same

You think that those things are 'unhealthy', do you?

I voted no

Two years for a non performance enhancing drug is very harsh in the first instance but he has a ban so he should be made to see it out

The RFL don't decide the outcome but they have been asked by Wigan to arrange it and have accepted as they have to. They are the governing body and if a club wants to take it to court then they have the right to.

why should he not train ?

its a playing ban , i would of much prefer that hock went schools/junior clubs for 1 year preaching the lows of drugs in sports and earning a early reprieve . i don't care for the man or wigan but i care for my sons who have learnt nothing from this.

Quote ="Mutley Cat"why should he not train ? its a playing ban , =#800000i would of much prefer that hock went schools/junior clubs for 1 year preaching the lows of drugs in sports and earning a early reprieve . i don't care for the man or wigan but i care for my sons who have learnt nothing from this.'" www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/ma ... k-drug-ban Quote But before all that he faces other challenges that he would never previously have countenanced – and which still, he concedes, cause him far more anxiety than the prospect of being belted by an Australian forward. =#800000On Monday, for example, he will address 15 teenage girls from the Manchester creative and media academy about lifestyle choices and where he went so badly wrong, as part of a rehabilitation process instigated by his club.'"

Quote ="Mutley Cat"why should he not train ? its a playing ban , =#800000i would of much prefer that hock went schools/junior clubs for 1 year preaching the lows of drugs in sports and earning a early reprieve . i don't care for the man or wigan but i care for my sons who have learnt nothing from this.'" www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/ma ... k-drug-ban Quote But before all that he faces other challenges that he would never previously have countenanced – and which still, he concedes, cause him far more anxiety than the prospect of being belted by an Australian forward. =#800000On Monday, for example, he will address 15 teenage girls from the Manchester creative and media academy about lifestyle choices and where he went so badly wrong, as part of a rehabilitation process instigated by his club.'"

He should do the full 2 years, once done and he's served his time then he should be given a fair chance to continue his career and no further sanction or discrimination for his offence.

Incidentally cocaine is a stimulant and would be performance enhancing in a physical sport like rugby so he was gaining some benefit and cheating. Its on the banned list for this reason.

Although it is cheeky of Wigan to ask for an early start, at least they did. Unlike another club which has a de-registered player being remarkably close to training sessions.

thats very encouraging but i would of preferred gareth to of been on a tour of lancs/yorks/manc/cheshire/cumbria/ect vising heartland set ups were he was recognized instead of 15 teenage girls who with all due respect may know not a jot about the sport.

He should serve his two year ban before he can train with any super league club. He's done the crime and should do the time.

I've nothing against hock coming back or nothing against Wigan wanting him back but rules are rules and hock should serve the two year ban fully.

Bit sexist innit?

I think that some people on here need to remember the Terry Newton situation. Yeah what good the rules did for him. It’ll be a very petty circumstance if Gareth has to serve it off the field all because a few self-righteous rugby league supporters.

Well said

But at the same time Damo, the RFL can't leave cocaine use unpunished can they?