Ben Barba? It's not 2012 anymore!

You are correct. I forgot to change my calendar!

However I would still rate him well above Kevin Sinfield.

You'd also have O'Loughlin at your club too, lets face it Westermans name belongs in this thread doesn't it?

He isnt a full back

And Lauaki. And, not to moment, technically still employs Gareth Hock too.

I won't mention Tomkins here, because despite him being a niggly, lashing out gobs***e, he's far from overrated.

There are a few obvious ones like Brough , Chase and Sinfield but we live in an era were there are no stand out British playmakers so these players are "overrated", as such, but they are still the best we have got. So I am not sure if they are overrated. The same can be applied to Sam Tomkins, he would be an average NRL fullback but is the best British back by a distance at the moment. So it is all down to who you compare these players to

I will go for a less obvious one; Chris Riley as he has a very unwarranted underrated tag. If you watch the big games Wire have played in the last couple of years he consistently lets them down especially in defence.

I think England have some world class forwards and some very average backs. So as a rule in this country we overrate the backs and underrate the forwards.

Riley, alongside Rhys Williams, is currently the designated "scapegoat" for our fans. In the past, it's been players like Mike Wainwright and Jon Clarke, now it's Riley.

Everytime something wrong happens at Warrington, it's Chris Riley's fault.

I think Riley is a cracking player personally.

He is. However, we have quite a few fickle fans, and they have to blame someone.

I don't see how he can be overrated though, as to be honest no-one really rates him anyway. He's hardly in for awards, Man of Steel, Dream Team etc, but he's always in the running for top tryscorer and despite "some" of his defence being a little suspect, he's a superb attacking player and has come on leaps and bounds from a few years ago. He has a job to do, and he just gets on and does it to the best of his abilities.

If anything, he's slightly underrated for me.

Come on, you're all getting this wrong.

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The way Hemmings and co wax lyrical over this ok player, is embarrasing.

You mean Chris Bridge, don't you?

And the 'moron of the thread' award goes to.....

You?

FC fans are a funny lot, they're such a negative bunch amongst each other yet if an outsider dares say anything negative they round up on you.

Another overrated Hull player is Yeaman, utter one dimensional garbage.

Cue a million and one insults from West Hulls finest