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| I think eastlands should be considered in the future.
seats 50,000, no pillars to peer round, plenty of parking around the ground
modern,and i think its council owned
Sat in all four stands at elland road over the years and the east stand aside it isn't up to scratch for a major final anymore
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| Quote ="duke street 10"I think eastlands should be considered in the future.
seats 50,000, no pillars to peer round, plenty of parking around the ground
modern,and i think its council owned
Sat in all four stands at elland road over the years and the east stand aside it isn't up to scratch for a major final anymore'"
I'll repeat this because you don't seem to be getting this...
Liverpool, Man City, Man Utd etc don't want us on their pitches in the middle of November and [size=200they don't need the money[/size we offer, the only reason we use Elland Road is because it's run by someone other than a soccer clu b.
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| Quote ="brearley84"first time at elland road tonight for me and its awful imo, the seats are close together and in a compact space than any ground ive been to! of maybe its cos im over 6ft..
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| Quote ="Big Graeme"I'll repeat this because you don't seem to be getting this...
Liverpool, Man City, Man Utd etc don't want us on their pitches in the middle of November and [size=200they don't need the money[/size we offer, the only reason we use Elland Road is because it's run by someone other than a soccer clu b.'"
Well,liverpool & man utd are in the red, man city no doubt have bills to pay, who says they wouldnt host it?
Im pretty certain these club have held rock concerts there in the past and let thousands of fans onto the (granted covered) playing surface in the summer,yet they wouldnt for 80 minutes of rugby in november?
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| Quote ="Big Graeme"I'll repeat this because you don't seem to be getting this...
Liverpool, Man City, Man Utd etc don't want us on their pitches in the middle of November and [size=200they don't need the money[/size we offer, the only reason we use Elland Road is because it's run by someone other than a soccer clu b.'"
Have you spoken to all these clubs to get this information?
Man United seem quite content to have Rugby on their pitch only 5 weeks before and are quite happy to take the money then. Man City's Eastlands ground is also owned by the council, and was largely funded by the taxpayer, as far as I am aware. Liverpool aren't exactly flush with cash at the moment either and need every penny that they can get for their new ground.
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| Did anyone see all the parking tickets all the way up the hill!?
Some parking officer has had a birthday!
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| Quote ="cherrydevil"Have you spoken to all these clubs to get this information?'"
Funny as it may seem, yes I did, two seasons ago when we had the same stupid debate.
Man Utd have a contract with the RFL, if it were down to the football side of the club they'd tear that up too.
No football club wants RL played on their pitch in the middle of November, the pitch is gonna get a hammering and if the weather closes in then it causes mayhem for the ground staff, a hugely different than having a concert there during the summer with the pitch covered.
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| Quote ="Chorlton RL"Dated, shabby and badly run, not to mention geographically poorly positioned as far as transport access is concerned. Eastlands is the best option for me with Anfield, Reebok and Hillsborough close behind. The Don Valley would even be better!'"
It's straight off the motorway in the middle of the heartlands, how is that geographically poor?!
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| I found the seats in the Revie stand very uncomfortable indeed, not to mention the farce we had getting our seats due to the rows been lettered wrong.
i had the bloke who was in the seat in front of me virtually sat on my lap everytime someone on his row wanted to go to the loo/bar and when someone on our row needed to get out i almost had to stand on my seat to let them through.
good for atmosphere, e for comfort i thought.
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| Quote ="Big Graeme"Funny as it may seem, yes I did, two seasons ago when we had the same stupid debate.'"
Yeah right, I believe you
Even if you did I very much doubt you spoke to anyone with any sort of sway in the matter. I suppose though you spoke to the Glazers, George Gillett and Tom Hicks as well as Manchester City Council.
Quote ="Big Graeme"Man Utd have a contract with the RFL, if it were down to the football side of the club they'd tear that up too.'"
A contract which was extended last year so they must be happy enough with rugby being played there. If as you say they dont need the money and it causes so much damage to the pitch then why extend it, particularly if the Football side are so against it.
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| Here's a crazy idea.
Some are banging on about the RFL building a stadium as a RL base, for internationals, etc. How about - seeing as they're struggling to get things off the ground - the RFL get together with Salford and build a 40,000 seater stadium designed for and geared towards RL. A compact stadium, a bit like the Reebok, with the seats close to and over the pitch, great for an intimidating atmosphere, and indoor and outdoor training facilities, gyms, etc. Assuming a two-tier design, let Salford use the lower tier only. We could take votes from fans to name the stands (The Karalius Stand, the Prescott, the Hanley, etc...), sell the naming rights (The Carnegie RFL stadium?), and also sponsor the stands (the O2 Boston Stand!). Amateur finals could be played there, schools finals, university finals, Challenge Cup semi-finals, etc.
Hear me out. It's bang on the M60, walkable from The Trafford Centre. There are great bus connections to the TC, and possibly eventually a Metrolink connection. The only issue might be traffic jams, but it's not as though other grounds don't suffer from congestion. It's easy to get to from all the heartlands from the M60, M62, M61, East Lancs, M56, etc. The train station at Patricroft is a bit of a walk, but the RFL could lay on shuttle buses for big games. You could even fly into Barton!
No, it'll never, ever happen. But imo it would be great. Even if it wasn't at Salford.
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| Quote ="Cronus"Here's a crazy idea.
Some are banging on about the RFL building a stadium as a RL base, for internationals, etc. How about - seeing as they're struggling to get things off the ground - the RFL get together with Salford and build a 40,000 seater stadium designed for and geared towards RL. A compact stadium, a bit like the Reebok, with the seats close to and over the pitch, great for an intimidating atmosphere, and indoor and outdoor training facilities, gyms, etc. Assuming a two-tier design, let Salford use the lower tier only. We could take votes from fans to name the stands (The Karalius Stand, the Prescott, the Hanley, etc...), sell the naming rights (The Carnegie RFL stadium?), and also sponsor the stands (the O2 Boston Stand!). Amateur finals could be played there, schools finals, university finals, Challenge Cup semi-finals, etc.
Hear me out. It's bang on the M60, walkable from The Trafford Centre. There are great bus connections to the TC, and possibly eventually a Metrolink connection. The only issue might be traffic jams, but it's not as though other grounds don't suffer from congestion. It's easy to get to from all the heartlands from the M60, M62, M61, East Lancs, M56, etc. The train station at Patricroft is a bit of a walk, but the RFL could lay on shuttle buses for big games. You could even fly into Barton!
No, it'll never, ever happen. But imo it would be great. Even if it wasn't at Salford.'"
Sounds good to me. I suggested similar at Leeds due to having a premiership Football team who could rent it. It is just the finance which is the trouble 
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| Quote ="cherrydevil"Sounds good to me. I suggested similar at Leeds due to having a premiership Football team who could rent it. It is just the finance which is the trouble
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How many fans do we have in total ?
100,000 in SL , another 20,000 in the Championships
£ 100 each gives us 12 million , ahh well not enough , never mind
Twice as many fans and we'd be in with a shout 
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| Quote ="cherrydevil"Yeah right, I believe you
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Please yourself, I couldn't care either way.
Quote ="cherrydevil"A contract which was extended last year so they must be happy enough with rugby being played there. If as you say they dont need the money and it causes so much damage to the pitch then why extend it, particularly if the Football side are so against it.'"
Happy to have the one game there, in October. A world of difference weather wise to the middle of November.
There is also the fact that the GF fills Old Trafford, I would imagine we need to get somewhere close to that to make a profit, now seen as we haven't had a 70k+ crowd for an international since Adam was a lad and give that if England didn't qualify the crowd would be substantively less that the 30k that were in Leeds I'd guess we'd be on a loser playing at OT.
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| It was well beyond "poor". The crush in the East Stand at half time was ridicoulous and could have easily have become a really dangerous situation.
Should never be used as a Rugby League stadium again.
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| Quote ="Cronus"Here's a crazy idea.
Some are banging on about the RFL building a stadium as a RL base, for internationals, etc. How about - seeing as they're struggling to get things off the ground - the RFL get together with Salford and build a 40,000 seater stadium designed for and geared towards RL. A compact stadium, a bit like the Reebok, with the seats close to and over the pitch, great for an intimidating atmosphere, and indoor and outdoor training facilities, gyms, etc. Assuming a two-tier design, let Salford use the lower tier only. We could take votes from fans to name the stands (The Karalius Stand, the Prescott, the Hanley, etc...), sell the naming rights (The Carnegie RFL stadium?), and also sponsor the stands (the O2 Boston Stand!). Amateur finals could be played there, schools finals, university finals, Challenge Cup semi-finals, etc.
Hear me out. It's bang on the M60, walkable from The Trafford Centre. There are great bus connections to the TC, and possibly eventually a Metrolink connection. The only issue might be traffic jams, but it's not as though other grounds don't suffer from congestion. It's easy to get to from all the heartlands from the M60, M62, M61, East Lancs, M56, etc. The train station at Patricroft is a bit of a walk, but the RFL could lay on shuttle buses for big games. You could even fly into Barton!
No, it'll never, ever happen. But imo it would be great. Even if it wasn't at Salford.'"
Completely agree, big events and concerts there could help pay for the stadium itself and we could have all our own games there including the challenge cup semi finals like you say. We could name the stadium after a big company for money towards the costs. There are so many ways inwhich we could fund something like this and if it is joint with Salford and their council, the RFL would have to put even less towards it! This idea could work IMO and should be seriously considered by the RFL but like you say it won't happen.
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"Completely agree, big events and concerts there could help pay for the stadium itself and we could have all our own games there including the challenge cup semi finals like you say. We could name the stadium after a big company for money towards the costs. There are so many ways inwhich we could fund something like this and if it is joint with Salford and their council, the RFL would have to put even less towards it! This idea could work IMO and should be seriously considered by the RFL but like you say it won't happen.'"
As Cherrydevil suggested , Leeds would be better , especially if it could be ' rented ' to Leeds Utd
Any project like this would need a Football partner to work
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| We sat in the John Charles stand and I thought it was okay. Stewards allowed us to take a pint into the stands, they just asked us to be sensible and try not to get on TV waving the beer around!
I thought the main problem was the parking. Instructions that came with tickets said to use car parks B, C or D. We queued for B for 20mins to be told it was for disabled badges only, and it was causing chaos with eneryone turning round to move onto car parks C and D. We plumped for C as we would have to turn left upon leaving. Again, instructions that came with tickets asked us to have £4.00 in correct change ready for the car park to avoid delays, but were told it was £5.00 when we got there. We had to pay with a £20 note and held everyone up getting change. Stupid thing is we'd deliberately gone and bought some mints with a fiver so we'd have the £4 ready!!
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| Quote ="jesus-is-coming"Perhaps if we had invested some of the tv money in building a stadium instead of paying over the hill players large contract we could have had our own ground with regular fixtures played at the same time every year...who knows people may get use to turning up...just a thought but you lot would sooner play daft money to players'"
Maybe if our game had kept the earnings of players and built lovely stadia like Twickenham, Murrayfield and Lansdowne Road, we would have such luxuries.
Of course, such conduct would have been reprehensible but we would still have lovely stadia. And presumably media protection.
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| I just don't understand how the Scottish RU raised the finance to build Murrayfield and continually raise the finance to keep the place open when they only use it a couple of times a year and their member clubs are nowhere near the level of the English RU Premier teams.
PS - I agree with all about Elland Rd, I'll only go there with a gun against my head, its an excellent example of a standing stadia that was forced to install seating onto terracing that wasn't designed for it and then went and built a brand new seated stand to the same specs as the old ones 
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| Quote ="Starbug"As Cherrydevil suggested , Leeds would be better , especially if it could be ' rented ' to Leeds Utd
Any project like this would need a Football partner to work'"
I think another option would be Bradford! Bradford Bulls, Bradford football, Bradford council, The RFL, a major sponsor, Concerts and events... could help fund something like this.
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| Quote ="Mark_W"Did anyone see all the parking tickets all the way up the hill!?
Some parking officer has had a birthday!'"
Preferable to having your car broken into.
Parked just off Old Lane near co-op and arriving back found a few cars,including mine, with windows smashed. Funny thing is nothing pinched even though the young 'un had left the camera in the car, forgotting to take it to the ground.
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| Quote ="McLaren_Field"I just don't understand how the Scottish RU raised the finance to build Murrayfield and continually raise the finance to keep the place open when they only use it a couple of times a year and their member clubs are nowhere near the level of the English RU Premier teams.'"
RBS mate, millions of pounds frittered away on high profile sporting sponsorships so their bigwigs could lord it up.
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| Quote ="huddiepuddies"Preferable to having your car broken into.
Parked just off Old Lane near co-op and arriving back found a few cars,including mine, with windows smashed. Funny thing is nothing pinched even though the young 'un had left the camera in the car, forgotting to take it to the ground.
Obviously not Wakefield fans as next year's season tickets left in the glove compartment
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Do you think they might have stolen it but brought it back?

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| Quote ="Bal"It was well beyond "poor". The crush in the East Stand at half time was ridicoulous and could have easily have become a really dangerous situation.
Should never be used as a Rugby League stadium again.'"
I agree, queuing to get up or down stairs, the ban on taking drinks into the seating area, meant at half time people had to stand in the pokey areas near the bars which was made worse by the queue for the toilets etc. It was shoulder to shoulder in there, i'm sure they're laws against doing that to animals let alone human beings  we saw people waiting to et down off stairs but didn't move for 10 mins as there was nowhere for them to go.
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