In a sea of hysteric posts you've managed to raise the bar. Well done sir!

Hardly a 'jab'. He pulled his arm back.

Some Wigan fans probably can. After all some Wigan fans wanted Danny McGuire's career to be over due to an obstruction.

Think Clarkes comment in commentary have been over looked a lot he was desperately trying to somehow justify it.

I think Wane may regret that. If I was controlling the club I'd dismiss Flower and Wane too if he wishes to stand by his man.

I think for those reason Flower will need to be sacked or given a life ban. The sport cannot afford that. No sport can. As I said last night - it has set the game back years.

Make juvenile posts such as "End of. Night" and you'll get one in response.

I actually agree with the remainder of your post, except you miss the point that Hohaia chose to deliberately move into Flower's path and got banged out the way, albeit aggressively. He then retaliated and came off worse. Fact is, he instigated the entire thing, chose to take it further by chasing Flower and striking him in the face with the forearm, and came off second best.

But let me be clear, despite the hysterical wailing on here, no-one is defending the final punch. It was a step too far and he will rightly face a strong punishment.

What happened in the lead up to the final punch was what happens occasionally in Rugby League. The last punch was a disgraceful assault and brought the game into disrepute.

RL is getting an absolute hammering on social media.

Blows like that could lead to LH developing epilepsy or another neurological condition in future. There are no excuses for what Flower did. Worst thing I've seen on a professional RL ground in 50 years. Got to be life ban for me. Sorry to say that but that, as a neutral, is how I feel.

Par for the course with that muppet though. He's becoming a caricature of himself. Just when you thought he couldn't lose anymore credibility.

So a debatable obstruction is now open to violent retaliation, when did that enter the rules?

Complete bollox, no excuses

I challenge you to try and block my run for a chasing ball and see if I lamp you, because that's my nature or simply pick one of the 20 meters either side of you.

Sorry that you feel that saying night is some how equivalent to name calling. This over reaction thing must be catching.

Should I watch out for a low flying ban.

When has he ever had any as a pundit, the guy is a total plank!

The game is in desperate need of another Zak episode.

Just for the sake of distraction, obviously.

Please. You see that sort of thing fairly often. Someone steps in the way to impede a chaser and gets banged out the way. That was nothing despite your pitiful bleating.

Once again, the second punch was inexcusable but give over painting Hohaia as some innocent victim.

So could lots of other blows, like Weswood on Green, or indeed Lance Hohaia's elbow to Flower's face. While Flower's was very bad, let's not pretend it is unique in having the potential to cause serious injury.

What some Wigan fans don't seem to be getting is that the "mitigation" of what went on before doesn't matter at all. We're dealing with two separate things here. The first thing is the barges and the first punch all rolled up together, and you can argue about who deserved what and what was justified and what bans are deserved because of that. All that is small-time and doesn't really matter.

The second, entirely separate thing is the punch on the ground which was - and we all agree - ridiculously dangerous and is on front pages and news bulletins around the world.

Why has is got this coverage? Because it was *extraordinary*. It's that extraordinary that it has to be taken in isolation and be treated as an unprecedented event beyond RL's regular disciplinary charge sheet. If we want to undo some of the damage done by this one act and reverse all this deserved bad publicity there really is a case to show such things are so unacceptable in our sport that they're punished with a life ban.

The thing is, no one gave a sh*t about that apart from RL fans themselves. But in this instance we are getting it from all angles.

Agreed. Flower should face a life ban and criminal prosecution.

Well said.

Not sure about a life ban, but a message needs to be sent. A much wider audience is watching ...

Try and block an uncompromising prop running full pelt for the ball and see how you get on. I'd wager my mortgage you'd get banged out the way in no uncertain terms.

Fact is, if he hadn't stepped into Flower's path none of it would have happened. If he hadn't struck Flower in the face with the forearm he would never have been punched. Hohaia knows all the tricks in the book but chose the wrong battle twice in quick succession last night.


I've already explained it once. If it upsets you so much you're in the wrong place.

Sorry that you feel that saying night is some how equivalent to name calling. This over reaction thing must be catching.'"

Not sure why you posted this in reply to me, someone who has clearly, several times, singled out the final punch as inexcusable and deserving of strong punishment.