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| Quote ="Him"Where has anybody said you can't have an opinion?
Your final paragraph shows how we should view your opinion though.'"
The fact that my opinion was ridiculed.
I'm not happy to give the MoS award to a bloke who's caught on live TV abusing the official and using foul homophobic language toward the ref. The loss of control and out of context attack on a player half his size was an unedifying sight and sealed it for me.
The fact that the award is now closely associated with Steve Prescott means, IMO, that Peacock ruled himself out of contention
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| Quote ="The Avenger"The fact that my opinion was ridiculed.
I'm not happy to give the MoS award to a bloke who's caught on live TV abusing the official and using foul homophobic language toward the ref. The loss of control and out of context attack on a player half his size was an unedifying sight and sealed it for me.
The fact that the award is now closely associated with Steve Prescott means, IMO, that Peacock ruled himself out of contention'"
So can you actually show us where anybody said you shouldn't have opinion?
You don't want the MoS to go to a player who's ever abused an official? That's pretty much exempted any player who's played for longer than a couple of seasons.
I don't quite see why dissent should stop a player receiving the MoS rather than say committing a spear tackle that could endanger a players life.
As for your assertion Peacock used homophobic abuse I'd stop now before the lawyers get involved if I were you, especially considering you've clearly made it up.
By the way, if in the future you don't want your opinions ridiculed, then don't post ridiculous opinions.
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| Quote ="Him"So can you actually show us where anybody said you shouldn't have opinion?
You don't want the MoS to go to a player who's ever abused an official? That's pretty much exempted any player who's played for longer than a couple of seasons.
I don't quite see why dissent should stop a player receiving the MoS rather than say committing a spear tackle that could endanger a players life.
As for your assertion Peacock used homophobic abuse I'd stop now before the lawyers get involved if I were you, especially considering you've clearly made it up.
By the way, if in the future you don't want your opinions ridiculed, then don't post ridiculous opinions.'"
The videos on YouTube fella!
Go get your lawyer,
Talk about ridiculous comments.
Like I said earlier here comes the Rhino mob to back up their man
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| Quote ="The Avenger"The videos on YouTube fella!
Go get your lawyer,
Talk about ridiculous comments.
Like I said earlier here comes the Rhino mob to back up their man'"
If you think referring to a referee as 'bent' is meant as any reference to sexuality then your lack of comprehension about its meaning in that situation is embarrassing.
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| Quote ="The Avenger"The videos on YouTube fella!
Go get your lawyer,
Talk about ridiculous comments.
Like I said earlier here comes the Rhino mob to back up their man'"
There is no video on YouTube of Peacock being homophobic/making homophobic comments. There is only you making things up, and looking ridiculous in the process.
I haven't even suggested anyone for Man of Steel yet, not even Peacock. I think he'd be in the running but no-one has really stood out well beyond the others yet.
But carry on making a fool of yourself, it's hilarious! 
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| Quote ="Him"There is no video on YouTube of Peacock being homophobic/making homophobic comments. There is only you making things up, and looking ridiculous in the process.
I haven't even suggested anyone for Man of Steel yet, not even Peacock. I think he'd be in the running but no-one has really stood out well beyond the others yet.
But carry on making a fool of yourself, it's hilarious!
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"Jamie Peacock to a referee - charge or no charge"
Where did I say you'd suggested someone as man of steel
Name calling on a forum, really, grow up!
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| Quote ="Les Norton"If you think referring to a referee as 'bent' is meant as any reference to sexuality then your lack of comprehension about its meaning in that situation is embarrassing.'"
Except when Richard Agar said the same word about the same referee they viewed it as homophobic and heavily fined and suspended him.
Agars quote was not sandwiched between two very offensive expletives and wasn't broadcast live on national television!
So it's not my interpretation that's in question here, however what is embarrassing is someone passing judgement without knowing the facts.
HTH
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| Quote ="redsrevolution"Daryl Clark has been by far the standout player. Plays to a high standard and is very very consistent'"
Clark has been excellent, but on the back of others. Some at Cas without the credit lay the foundation for Clark to excel.
Ones like a Peacock, who is not has good as last year do it off their own back.
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| Quote ="The Avenger"Except when Richard Agar said the same word about the same referee they viewed it as homophobic and heavily fined and suspended him.
Agars quote was not sandwiched between two very offensive expletives and wasn't broadcast live on national television!
So it's not my interpretation that's in question here, however what is embarrassing is someone passing judgement without knowing the facts.
HTH'"
Yeah, you. Richard Agar hasnt ever been suspended for making homophobic comments, or even charged with it.
Richard Agar wasnt suspended, he was find 6k, 3k of which was suspended for saying that Child was "100% responsible" for a loss.
Its not your interpretation that's in question here, its your sanity.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Yeah, you. Richard Agar hasnt ever been suspended for making homophobic comments, or even charged with it.
Richard Agar wasnt suspended, he was find 6k, 3k of which was suspended for saying that Child was "100% responsible" for a loss.
Its not your interpretation that's in question here, its your sanity.'"
Ha Ha, that's not the way Richard Agar tells it but hey, you know best!
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| Quote ="The Avenger"Ha Ha, that's not the way Richard Agar tells it but hey, you know best!'"
So Richard Agar served a suspension that wasnt reported by the RFL? And paid a fine the RFL said he only had to pay half of? And the RFL charged with publicly with one offence whilst secretly charging him and punishing him for another.
And up until this point everybody kept this weird situation secret just in case 3 years later they could let Jamie Peacock off with the same offence?
Do you have any evidence whatsoever of your claim? or was the charge, suspension and fine a secret only Richard Agar knew about

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| We can take that as a no then.
What an idiotic thing to make up when it was so easily verifiable 
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| Quote ="The Avenger"Search
"Jamie Peacock to a referee - charge or no charge"
Where did I say you'd suggested someone as man of steel
Name calling on a forum, really, grow up!'"
I have no need to search anything, I know exactly what you're referring to. It was spotted by people at the same time as the Hardaker comments and nobody assumed Peacock was using the word in that way. Do you know why? Because it's ridiculous.
There's a theme emerging about your posts isn't there.
So, can you now show us all where somebody said you shouldn't have an opinion?
Or did you make it up? You know, like the rest of your assertions.
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| jp will win the steve prescott man of steel award this year if all the voting is done fairly,i cannot think of a more worthy recipient than him tbh
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Clark has been excellent, but on the back of others. Some at Cas without the credit lay the foundation for Clark to excel.
Ones like a Peacock, who is not has good as last year do it off their own back.'"
Clark has been outstanding and dug us out of a hole several times with his movement forward. People around him have been good but he's set the platform for them to make ground too.
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| Quote ="Fully"Clark has been outstanding and dug us out of a hole several times with his movement forward. People around him have been good but he's set the platform for them to make ground too.'"
No he hasn't. I have seen enough games. Huby, Lynch, Millington lay the platform, that Clark being the excellent player he is, feeds off. Not the other way round.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"We can take that as a no then.
What an idiotic thing to make up when it was so easily verifiable
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[url=http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2011/apr/04/rfl-hull-richard-agar-refereeThis[/url was the incident in question; Richard Agar has confirmed privately that it was viewed more seriously by the RFL, because he used the same word that JP used to describe Mr Child. He was mortified that it had been interpreted as homophobic - just like the misunderstood Mr Hardaker.
JP's outburst does seem to have been brushed under the carpet, wouldn't you say?
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"We can take that as a no then.
What an idiotic thing to make up when it was so easily verifiable
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You can take it how you want STA, fact is you're boring me to tears but that's par for the course.
Despite your best efforts to make this into something else, My point stands, the video is there for all to see and on both playing ability and being undesirable Jamie Peacock should be nowhere near the MoS award.
You can pontificate all you like now
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| Quote ="Him"I have no need to search anything, I know exactly what you're referring to. It was spotted by people at the same time as the Hardaker comments and nobody assumed Peacock was using the word in that way. Do you know why? Because it's ridiculous.
There's a theme emerging about your posts isn't there.
So, can you now show us all where somebody said you shouldn't have an opinion?
Or did you make it up? You know, like the rest of your assertions.'"
Nothing's made up except in your head, it's there you've seen it and in whatever context Peacock used the word "bent" when shouting abuse at a gay official he was in the wrong. I thought he was supposed to be an intelligent man, if so you'd think he'd know better.
Now can you point out to me where I said you had nominated someone as MoS or did you make that up.
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| Quote ="Jonesy's a Legend"jp will win the steve prescott man of steel award this year if all the voting is done fairly,i cannot think of a more worthy recipient than him tbh'"
What a travesty that would be not to mention an insult.
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| Quote ="Fully"Clark has been outstanding and dug us out of a hole several times with his movement forward. People around him have been good but he's set the platform for them to make ground too.'"
Careful Fully, if you don't agree with the mob from Leeds you're deluded, fantasising, making things up and have some kind of agenda. Heaven forbid that you might voice a valid point which doesn't fit their beliefs.
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| Quote ="bren2k"[url=http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2011/apr/04/rfl-hull-richard-agar-refereeThis[/url was the incident in question; Richard Agar has confirmed privately that it was viewed more seriously by the RFL, because he used the same word that JP used to describe Mr Child. He was mortified that it had been interpreted as homophobic - just like the misunderstood Mr Hardaker.
JP's outburst does seem to have been brushed under the carpet, wouldn't you say?'"
Erm, in what way was it viewed as a homophobic insult. There is nothing within that that mentions the word 'bent' he wasnt suspended, he was fined. He wasnt charged with making a homophobic insult, he was charged with the offence he was punished for which was nothing to do with a homophobic insult.
So what we are apparently supposed to believe is that Richard Agar said, in an interview, James Child's performance was 100% the reason Hull lost, that his performance was "just disgraceful" and "completely ruining the game as a spectacle", but he also in the same interview said that Child was 'bent'. The RFL then secretly investigated him for for calling him 'bent', secretly punished him for it, whilst publicly investigating him for saying Childs performance was 100% the reason Hull lost, that his performance was "just disgraceful" and "completely ruining the game as a spectacle" and publicly punishing him for it, his punishment being in line with those levied against coaches for similar outbursts. But nobody at any stage reported the Agar calling Child 'Bent', nobody reported the RFL investigating it, nobody reported the RFL charging him for it, and nobody reported him being punished for it.
And it's JP's outbust being brushed under the carpet?
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| Quote ="The Avenger"What a travesty that would be not to mention an insult.'" Hopefully it will whip you in to another hissy fit, perhaps you can make up a story about James Webster getting a secret years ban for wearing white boots, but JP's are just brushed under the carpet
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