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| Quote ="RoyBoy29"Salford get 3500 attendances?'"
Are you jealous or just worried that Leigh may not escape the Championship ?
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Are you jealous or just worried that Leigh may not escape the Championship ?'"
I think RoyBoy may have been alluding to Salford's home attendances this season:-
Wigan 5,568
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Hull 2,902
Catalans 2,328
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The average for the first seven home games was 3,281, with only the Wigan gate exceeding 3,500.
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| Quote ="Cokey"Here you go, something for your obsession with Leigh fans, to fantasise over tonight.
Don't get too carried away now.

Regards
King Tut'"
Is that Leigh and their 800 home fans?
Regards
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| King Nob, please comment on the school playing field.

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| Quote ="Alan"I think RoyBoy may have been alluding to Salford's home attendances this season:-
Wigan 5,568
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The average for the first seven home games was 3,281, with only the Wigan gate exceeding 3,500.'"
I was Alan 
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| Quote ="Alan"I think RoyBoy may have been alluding to Salford's home attendances this season:-
Wigan 5,568
HKR 2,948
Hull 2,902
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Warrington 3,428
Wakefield 2,686
Saints 3,105
The average for the first seven home games was 3,281, with only the Wigan gate exceeding 3,500.'"
I don’t see how Salford can maintain a Super League side with those figures and without Marwan throwing away a few million a year, it’s only a matter of time until they either get relegated or go bust.
2917 for Toronto Wolfpack yesterday, despite playing 25 miles from their normal home ground.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"I don’t see how Salford can maintain a Super League side with those figures and without Marwan throwing away a few million a year, it’s only a matter of time until they either get relegated or go bust.
2917 for Toronto Wolfpack yesterday, despite playing 25 miles from their normal home ground.'"
A bit down on last season's 'crowds' then?
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| Was at the toulouse game yesterday and whilst they put Fev to the sword on the field they are a million miles from super league. There was probably about 600 people there (175 ish from fev). If any crowd is given into 4 figures it is a lie. There were people literally handing tickets out for free. Whilst I fully acknowledge Cas play in a dump, not 1 of the traps in the ground had any toilet roll. You really wouldn't have known there was a game going on.
Jonathan Ford is a high quality player, even on 1 leg he absolutely ran the show.
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| Quote ="Lebron James"Is that Leigh and their 800 home fans?
Regards
King James'"
I believe that crowd was closely approaching 8,000 *I was there* & that stand was completely 'SOLD OUT' ..... & all with people who actually PAID for their tickets !
TBF to Giants fans also, while there numbers weren't huge, they were much better followed than many suggest.
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| Quote ="Towns88"Was at the toulouse game yesterday and whilst they put Fev to the sword on the field they are a million miles from super league. There was probably about 600 people there (175 ish from fev). If any crowd is given into 4 figures it is a lie. There were people literally handing tickets out for free. Whilst I fully acknowledge Cas play in a dump, not 1 of the traps in the ground had any toilet roll. You really wouldn't have known there was a game going on.
Jonathan Ford is a high quality player, even on 1 leg he absolutely ran the show.'"
conspiracy theories about the crowd, 'Toulouse are not good we were just rubbish', 'Ford is their only good player'
moaning fans bingo card complete. we've heard it all before...
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| Quote ="Alan"A bit down on last season's 'crowds' then?'"
how many Super League clubs would get 3,000 fans to travel 25 miles to a game?
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"I don’t see how Salford can maintain a Super League side with those figures and without Marwan throwing away a few million a year, it’s only a matter of time until they either get relegated or go bust.
2917 for Toronto Wolfpack yesterday, despite playing 25 miles from their normal home ground.'"
4000 fans decided it was too far to travel to see the much heralded ‘home’ game. Fickle fans already.
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| Quote ="reffy"4000 fans decided it was too far to travel to see the much heralded ‘home’ game. Fickle fans already.'"
Maybe they decided that it wasn't worth watching "small time" oppositions with hardly any away fans at the game.
I am deliberately taking the p1$$ here but, I think that would be how it would be viewed if this had happened in the heartlands.
The whole thread is just boring, with mainly Leigh fans bemoaning anything that clubs outside Wigan achieve.
Regardless of the crowd, ground, price of beer, venue, home fans, away fans, cost of getting there etc, etc, this was an excellent result for Toulouse and its starting to look like the top 3 in The Championship will now be Toronto, Toulouse and Fev, plus, either Leigh or London and it will be interesting to see which of these can mix it with SL opposition.
If everyone stopped being so bloody negative about anything new, we could all get on with enjoying "The Greatest Game" 
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| Quote ="JonB95"conspiracy theories about the crowd, 'Toulouse are not good we were just rubbish', 'Ford is their only good player'
moaning fans bingo card complete. we've heard it all before...'"
Cool story bro.
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| Quote ="reffy"4000 fans decided it was too far to travel to see the much heralded ‘home’ game. Fickle fans already.'"
remember when saints palyed at widnes? which is closer than markham is to toronto, they only managed around 6k average, can we moan about their 4-5 thousand missing fans then?
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| I think that Toronto have to be the favorites this year as they seem to be steadily building their performances as the season goes on. Toulouse are a really good outfit but may struggle if injuries hit home. London are very inconsistent which will hurt them in the middle 8's. I hope that Leigh make the 8's but it is still looking tough with the run of fixtures we have over the next 6-7 weeks. One thing is for sure though, the gap to super league is closing because some of the standard on SKY this year has been shocking from some teams. My prediction- Toronto to get promoted. What will happen with their home middle 8's games?
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| They will play them at their home ground, Lamport Stadium, Toronto.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Maybe they decided that it wasn't worth watching "small time" oppositions with hardly any away fans at
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My point was that this team that is carrying the hopes of the expansionists was giving their supporters a chance to see a Championship game in the flesh, after being starved of live action, albeit 25 miles away from there normal ground. Some fans may have been nearer to the alternate venue, but 4000 couldn’t be bothered.
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| Toronto will sort out their ground and fan attendances before the end of the season.
The little blips that the Leyther gang like to point to are not going to stop Toronto from being promoted to Super League if they can beat the weakest SL club in the middle 8s.
It is really only Toronto and Toulouse who have a realistic chance of being promoted. London looked a possibility a few weeks ago, but less so now. Leigh are all hot and cold and will not have a chance of promotion because even if they make the Middle 8s they will not beat any of the four SL teams in the Middle 8s, nor will they beat Toronto or Toulouse in that contest.
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| Leigh are on a good run at the moment. Some tough games to come but don't rule them out.
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| Quote ="wire-quin"Leigh are on a good run at the moment. Some tough games to come but don't rule them out.'"
I think they still have 2 games against Toronto, plus others against the top 4 and if they win those, they would be well set going into the Middle 8's
It's 4 from 6 and with London on the slide, Leigh will very likely make the top 4.
Although London is supposed to give SL some kind of national profile, in terms of support and genuine SL credentials, they are miles behind the other sides.
Fev are always gallant contenders but, I cant see them ever becoming an established SL side and we have seen just how difficult that task is with Leigh and KR.
The current structure, which condemns any promoted club going through the middle 8's "lottery" the following season, makes it really tough for any promoted side to gain a proper foot hold in the top flight.
It's going to be interesting though and assuming that Toronto play their home games at home, they have a really tough challenge ahead of them and they shouldn't be allowed to play their games en bloc, which will be another interesting decision for those "running" the game.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"I think they still have 2 games against Toronto, plus others against the top 4 and if they win those, they would be well set going into the Middle 8's
It's 4 from 6 and with London on the slide, Leigh will very likely make the top 4.
Although London is supposed to give SL some kind of national profile, in terms of support and genuine SL credentials, they are miles behind the other sides.
Fev are always gallant contenders but, I cant see them ever becoming an established SL side and we have seen just how difficult that task is with Leigh and KR.
The current structure, which condemns any promoted club going through the middle 8's "lottery" the following season, makes it really tough for any promoted side to gain a proper foot hold in the top flight.
It's going to be interesting though and assuming that Toronto play their home games at home, they have a really tough challenge ahead of them and they shouldn't be allowed to play their games en bloc, which will be another interesting decision for those "running" the game.'"
Any promoted club could avoid the middle 8s by finishing 8th or above, not an easy task but they could do it. It is the inability thus far of newly promoted sides to finish above 9th that leaves them contesting the qualifiers.
Regarding Toronto and the post split fixtures IIRC they played all of their home games, followed by all of their away games in the League 1 8s last season so I would envision them doing the same again. That would give teams going to Toronto at least 3 weeks to sort out logistics, time off work (if part time) etc.
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| Quote ="wiganermike"Any promoted club could avoid the middle 8s by finishing 8th or above, not an easy task but they could do it. It is the inability thus far of newly promoted sides to finish above 9th that leaves them contesting the qualifiers.
Regarding Toronto and the post split fixtures IIRC they played all of their home games, followed by all of their away games in the League 1 8s last season so I would envision them doing the same again. That would give teams going to Toronto at least 3 weeks to sort out logistics, time off work (if part time) etc.'"
I guess that could disrupt other clubs' home and away fixtures in the play offs Mike? It would be somewhat daunting to fit in trips to Toronto, Toulouse & Catalans - which could happen, depending on final placings!
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Toronto will sort out their ground and fan attendances before the end of the season.
The little blips that the Leyther gang like to point to are not going to stop Toronto from being promoted to Super League if they can beat the weakest SL club in the middle 8s.
It is really only Toronto and Toulouse who have a realistic chance of being promoted. London looked a possibility a few weeks ago, but less so now. Leigh are all hot and cold and will not have a chance of promotion because even if they make the Middle 8s they will not beat any of the four SL teams in the Middle 8s, nor will they beat Toronto or Toulouse in that contest.'"
TBH if Toronto's ground isn't up to SL standard, I don't see why an exception should be made for them. As for Toulouse, I'm not sure where they are playing, but when I went last year it left a lot to be desired, especially access.
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