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| Quote ="littlerich"Respect to your efforts on here - firefighting everywhere! A true fan.
Whatever the fallout from what has happened to the Bulls (and indeed what happens at any club) it's the fans that feel it in the heart. Good luck sir.'"
Same here. Many good people seem to be defending what can no longer be defended, been there done that. It's a shame they see attacks on the clubs owners as attacks on themselves but that I suppose is human nature. Sport is an emotional affair, clearly not a business.
Adeybull put your obvious passion and energy in backing whatever comes next and you and your team will do OK. Keep backing this lot and it will wear you out. Read what you like into my comments but I have have had a long term dislike for the way SL is run and always found Bradfords management it's worst exponent.
I've said all I can say on the issue for now.
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| Quote ="vastman"
I've said all I can say on the issue for now.'"
Thank f#ck for that
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| Have they got a big 'Blue Peter' style thermometer outside Odsal and if so, what's the grand total thus far?
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| Quote ="bren2k"Have they got a big 'Blue Peter' style thermometer outside Odsal and if so, what's the grand total thus far?'"
11 degrees centigrade.
They've not really grasped the concept.
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| Quote ="Steve Fox"11 degrees centigrade.
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| Quote ="vastman"Same here. Many good people seem to be defending what can no longer be defended, been there done that. It's a shame they see attacks on the clubs owners as attacks on themselves but that I suppose is human nature. Sport is an emotional affair, clearly not a business.
Adeybull put your obvious passion and energy in backing whatever comes next and you and your team will do OK. Keep backing this lot and it will wear you out. Read what you like into my comments but I have have had a long term dislike for the way SL is run and always found Bradfords management it's worst exponent.
I've said all I can say on the issue for now.'"
OK.
Now we come to the interesting bit.
I don't think it will be long at all before such of those questions and issues, that those with reservations and the downright sceptics (or worse, like you) are concerned about, and that the club is commercially able to address, will be. And it may be that a few people may get to need to revisit some of their opinions.
You heard it here first.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Thank f#ck for that'"
Oh the irony of that comment from that poster cannot have escaped anybody - 10/10 pure comedy gold Smokey 
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| Quote ="Adeybull"OK.
Now we come to the interesting bit.
I don't think it will be long at all before such of those questions and issues, that those with reservations and the downright sceptics (or worse, like you) are concerned about, and that the club is commercially able to address, will be. And it may be that a few people may get to need to revisit some of their opinions.
You heard it here first.'"
I seriously doubt it but you knock yourself out.
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| [url=http://www.bradfordbulls.co.uk/news/5791/BULLS%20CHAIRMAN%20CLARIFIES%20CLUB%27S%20BANKING%20RELATIONSHIP=#800000Here is something to think about[/url
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| Quote ="Adeybull"[url=http://www.bradfordbulls.co.uk/news/5791/BULLS%20CHAIRMAN%20CLARIFIES%20CLUB%27S%20BANKING%20RELATIONSHIP=#800000Here is something to think about[/url'"
Propaganda I'm afraid. He paints such a rosy picture, but if that were the case, they wouldn't be living in their overdraft. It's poor business, they should have instructed Natwest when they made the deal with the RFL and not gone ahead with it.
This Coral stand that cost ÂŁ3m cash then? What kind of revenue does that generate?
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| Quote ="Adeybull"[url=http://www.bradfordbulls.co.uk/news/5791/BULLS%20CHAIRMAN%20CLARIFIES%20CLUB%27S%20BANKING%20RELATIONSHIP=#800000Here is something to think about[/url'"
Forgive me Adey, but whats RBS's involvement in this then? Do they own NatWest?
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Forgive me Adey, but whats RBS's involvement in this then? Do they own NatWest?'"
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Forgive me Adey, but whats RBS's involvement in this then? Do they own NatWest?'"
Yes.
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| Quote ="ridlerbull"Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Forgive me Adey, but whats RBS's involvement in this then? Do they own NatWest?'"
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| Still think it's the BOD's fault. Not Natwest/RBS. Just like it wasn't the mystery predators fault the rfl had to take the Odsal lease to repay themselves for a loan that i guess was going to default.
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| Quote ="vastman"Oh the irony of that comment from that poster cannot have escaped anybody - 10/10 pure comedy gold Smokey
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I hope the posters on the Wakefield board haven’t missed the irony of your constant digs at Bradfords board considering the near jihad you have declared on anyone who criticised bent Ted and his nepotism?
Your running in circles over this has been a joy to watch.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"I hope the posters on the Wakefield board haven’t missed the irony of your constant digs at Bradfords board considering the near jihad you have declared on anyone who criticised bent Ted and his nepotism?
Your running in circles over this has been a joy to watch.'"
Smokey, you've lost - game, set and match mate - it's over for you  lovin it. Trying to get elements of the Trinity faithful on my case is true desperation, still you may get a few nibbles even though that was a completely different issue - go for it mate.
I'd pull back to make my point some of your pedantry, overblown, long winded, snide, pointless and incredibly pompous past posts praising the management of SL and the Bulls - but I fear if I did I might take down the internet and I don't want that on my conscience - I don't have your lack of morality.
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| Quote ="Adeybull"[url=http://www.bradfordbulls.co.uk/news/5791/BULLS%20CHAIRMAN%20CLARIFIES%20CLUB%27S%20BANKING%20RELATIONSHIP=#800000Here is something to think about[/url'"
Not really, tells us zip.
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| Quote ="vastman"Not really, tells us zip.'"
Might tell YOU Zip.
To those with a bit more about them, it should tell them quite a lot.
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| Quote ="vastman"Smokey, you've lost - game, set and match mate - it's over for you
lovin it. Trying to get elements of the Trinity faithful on my case is true desperation, still you may get a few nibbles even though that was a completely different issue - go for it mate.
I'd pull back to make my point some of your pedantry, overblown, long winded, snide, pointless and incredibly pompous past posts praising the management of SL and the Bulls - but I fear if I did I might take down the internet and I don't want that on my conscience - I don't have your lack of morality.'"
The bulls were run well in the past, that’s is beyond debate, they grew massively, made profits, were successful on the field, brought through quality young players and invested in their facilities (things bent Ted and his family didn’t do). They haven’t been well run recently and you wont find any praise of Mr Hood from me, I’ve thought he was a bit of a joke since he demanded 2 points back over tanseygate affair and the “woe is me, big bad Leeds are being big and bad and mean to us” statements he made about the Harris case.
But if it makes you feel better to pretend I have praised Mr Hood and his management crack on,
But keep on squirming and pretending bent Ted and his nepotism and running of Wakefield are a wildly different circumstance. Its been good to watch.
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Might tell YOU Zip.
To those with a bit more about them, it should tell them quite a lot.'"
Keep the faith Adey. It's just spin, so what if they did or didn't use Odsal as security the debt is still the same.
Also the statement not correct anyway. You can have more than one call on the ground as collateral so long as the valuation gives you the equity.
I have two mortgages on my property with a BS and a Bank, it's no different in business.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"The bulls were run well in the past, that’s is beyond debate, they grew massively, made profits, were successful on the field, brought through quality young players and invested in their facilities (things bent Ted and his family didn’t do). They haven’t been well run recently and you wont find any praise of Mr Hood from me, I’ve thought he was a bit of a joke since he demanded 2 points back over tanseygate affair and the “woe is me, big bad Leeds are being big and bad and mean to us” statements he made about the Harris case.
But if it makes you feel better to pretend I have praised Mr Hood and his management crack on,
But keep on squirming and pretending bent Ted and his nepotism and running of Wakefield are a wildly different circumstance. Its been good to watch.'"
Are you really so stubborn or so thick - you decide. They were not a success clearly, the business was built on sand - a mixture of borrowed money and borrowed time. It was simply a financial time bomb waiting to explode.
The fact that you're twisting yourself inside out to defend a club you don't even support shows just how culpable you really are. Your arguments have been shown to be utterly fraudulent end of.
Practice this in the mirror, very slowly to start with - don't want an unfortunate on my hands.
I g.o.t..i.t..v.e.r.y..v.e.r.y..w.r.o.n.g..a.n.d.I'.m..s.o.r.r.y...... 
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Unsurprisingly RBS disagree.
Quote The cash-strapped club claimed on Monday that their lending facility has been significantly reduced by RBS, but the bank have labelled this as "incorrect".
RBS's statement sent to the BBC said: "It is incorrect to say RBS has cut the Bulls overdraft. We have been aware of cash difficulties faced by the Bulls for some time and have supported them through the last few months.
"However, the Bulls' main security was the lease on the stadium which they have recently sold and we have not been provided with replacement security to date."'"
Given Hood's previous I'm inclined to believe the bank, which proves how much I distrust Hood.
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| Where is your evidence for this being the case? Where is your evidence that the current problems suffered by the bulls are down to historic debts for 5+ years ago? Or is it just another thing you have made up? Because you seem to be making a lot of things up at the moment just so you can revel in the Bulls problems, which to be honest seems a very very strange thing to do!
Im also not sure where I have defended the current Bulls administration anywhere, at any time, even now. Though considering they are still getting higher attendences, still have better youth development, still have better facilities, and are still higher in the league than Wakefield, Im don’t know why you think you are in a position to look down on them.
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