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| It's going to require patience but the site of the AJ Bell will get better if all the planned developments between Trafford Centre and Irlam go ahead. Peel Holdings have submitted planning for "Trafford Water" which will bring a lot more housing and amenities to the area while the road networks are also being vastly improved with new bridges over the canal. Unfortunately I don't think Marwan will stick around for long enough to see it, which is a shame as I do think with a bit of luck Salford have potential to be a top 4 team
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| Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "The Willows was a dump. It had no use for developing a club. The problem with the new stadium A. J. Bell is its location combined with lack of easy access.
The only solution is for Dr Marwan Koukash to build a large commercial retail Centre with ample parking beside the stadium, and to get permission for a private Dubai-based company to create a light rail system that accesses the stadium from central Manchester and Salford Quays. Then you will find the attendances at A. J. Bell rising precipitously.'"
Yet again way off the mark! "Build a large commerical retail centre" with one of the largest in the Europe less than a mile away? "Dubai based company to build a light rail link too it". The bridge to connect the stadium to said retail development is in construction and funding has been approved ( and initial ground work started) for said light rail link (ie tram). I assume Toulouse and Catalan have same infrastructure (as you demand) underway?
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Insane teacher be there reminded of the rhyme.
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| JC I'll not bite as you have no idea of land ownership nor planning nor economic constraints on location.
Please google PEEL HOLDINGS
and check on their hold on most land from Eccles to Liverpool.
Then check their history of selling and their attitude to opposition setting up next to their land.
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18302_1567366773.png [b:1crbsr9w] Toulouse for Championship in 2017, Super League in 2021!
Avignon for Championship in 2021, Super League in 2022! [/b:1crbsr9w]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_18302.png |
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| Quote: Kiyan "Yet again way off the mark! "Build a large commerical retail centre" with one of the largest in the Europe less than a mile away? "Dubai based company to build a light rail link too it". The bridge to connect the stadium to said retail development is in construction and funding has been approved ( and initial ground work started) for said light rail link (ie tram). I assume Toulouse and Catalan have same infrastructure (as you demand) underway?'"
Toulouse already has one of the best metro rail systems in the world, which goes direct from city centre to a station right across the street from the Toulouse Stade des Minimes. Do you think that the French are as stupid as the English in that they would build a major sports stadium without public transport connections right to the gate?
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73709_1429825842.png [b:3lwchg41][size=100:3lwchg41]February 9th 2008. Harlequins Rugby League v Wigan Warriors; Attendance [color=#FF0000:3lwchg41]8,041[/color:3lwchg41]
Entire 2015 Season over 11 games: Total Attendance[color=#FF0000:3lwchg41] 8,050[/color:3lwchg41].
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| Quote: tenerifeRhino "I don't know why he is making a fuss about him losing 20k a home game, I thought the guy was a billionaire.
He probably spends that fuelling up his yacht
And the guy has hardly bought real quality players to make a proper go at honours.
I'm sure he is passionate about RL but he doesn't half moan.'"
This^^^^^^^
Surely he can either make an unignorable offer for the AJ Bell or simply just buy some wasteland and build their own 12,000 seater stadium?
Langtree park cost £25 million to build, surely old money bags could afford to spend that, stick his hotel/conference on the end?
Nope...he'd rather tell everyone how HE knows best and how the GAME is to blame for his club underperforming on and off the pitch......
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| Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "Toulouse already has one of the best metro rail systems in the world, which goes direct from city centre to a station right across the street from the Toulouse Stade des Minimes. Do you think that the French are as stupid as the English in that they would build a major sports stadium without public transport connections right to the gate?'"
SHUT UP KERMIT - U ANNOYING T1T
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[quote="Gotcha":y7izhg01]Salford won't win Super League in my lifetime. Even saying in jest they would sounds stupid.[/quote:y7izhg01]: |
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| Quote: Jim Pooley "This^^^^^^^
Surely he can either make an unignorable offer for the AJ Bell or simply just buy some wasteland and build their own 12,000 seater stadium?
Langtree park cost £25 million to build, surely old money bags could afford to spend that, stick his hotel/conference Centre on the end?
Nope...he'd rather tell everyone how HE knows best and how the GAME is to blame for his club underperforming on and off the pitch......'"
Yawn, if only it was that simple. Whilst I am sure Marwan could afford to do both of your suggestions, do you really think Salford City Council (who own 50% of the AJ Bell Stadium) would grant planning permission for another 12,000 seater stadium in the City? The answer is short is no, because then the AJ Bell would a white elephant and their entire investment would be for nothing. They also wouldn't sell it to him either, because it is only now the land is being developed upon around the stadium that Salford City Council are receiving some of the income they initially expected to make the whole thing viable.
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| Marwan will never have a stake in the NRL as word has already spread about the Tony Puletua fiasco, Frank his brother has a good reputation within the NRL decision makers.
News will be out sooner or later as a host of his other starts are also not being paid and the RFL are already investigating, unfortunately what it brings to light are some of the ways his early comments about salary cap rules being bent have actually caused major unrest.
I wouldn't expect many contract extensions being announced soon a the Devils.
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| Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "Toulouse already has one of the best metro rail systems in the world, which goes direct from city centre to a station right across the street from the Toulouse Stade des Minimes. Do you think that the French are as stupid as the English in that they would build a major sports stadium without public transport connections right to the gate?'"
Yet they can't build a decent league of their own and need to piggy-back the "stupid" English, who despite their stupidity have a full time proffesional league despite the same up hill struggle against the might of Union and Media apathy/bias as the French.
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| The stadium's location is certainly not ideal. But this issue is relegated to minuscule importance next to NOT OWNING SO MUCH AS A TOILET SEAT OF IT.
If I were a new Salford fan I'd want an official investigation held into the club's finances in the eighteen months leading up to the move. How did the club go from leaving The Willows holding the title to a substantial chunk of real estate and yet somehow end up at the new ground empty handed?
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1602.jpg Sad preacher nailed upon the coloured door of time;
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There'll be no mutant enemy we shall certify;
Political ends, as sad remains, will die.:1602.jpg |
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| "holding the title to a substantial chunk of real estate"
They did not.
We went to Barton with considerable debts which the new stadium made worse so almost went under. The Willows had been sold to (from memory) Austin Wilkinson (I could be wrong) and the Willows club went bust.
The club had been going downhill (from an accountants' point of view) for many years. It was reflected on the field.
From rumours I get from money men, other fans need to be careful as so are some other clubs.
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| Quote: Hillbilly_Red ""holding the title to a substantial chunk of real estate"
They did not.
We went to Barton with considerable debts '"
Oh ... I'm QUITE SURE you did. And I'd like to see the size and nature of those debts (in detail) because something hasn't added up at that club for a long, long time.
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| Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE ". Do you think that the French are as stupid as the English in that they would build a major sports stadium without public transport connections right to the gate?'"
well they did think a little concrete wall would stop Hitler
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Black Backgrounds/Zoot.gif Freedom for supporters of the government, only for members of one party - however numerous they may be - is no freedom at all. freedom is always and exclusively for one who thinks differently.
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| Quote: Saint Simon "well they did think a little concrete wall would stop Hitler'"
It did. The trouble was that it wasn't long enough so the Germans went round it.
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| Quote: Mugwump "The stadium's location is certainly not ideal. But this issue is relegated to minuscule importance next to NOT OWNING SO MUCH AS A TOILET SEAT OF IT.
If I were a new Salford fan I'd want an official investigation held into the club's finances in the eighteen months leading up to the move. How did the club go from leaving The Willows holding the title to a substantial chunk of real estate and yet somehow end up at the new ground empty handed?'"
Without knowing any details I'd imagine Salford were in a somewhat similar position to Wakefield. I'd imagine they'd borrowed against the stadium (The Willows), or maybe even sold it, in order to fund the ongoing costs of the club for several years prior to selling it and moving.
I may be wrong but that's the impression I get from it all, as it seemed like Salford had been struggling financially for a while.
I just hope other clubs haven't done the same thing. There's nothing wrong with borrowing against assets, but it should be to invest, not fund the club for a few years.
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