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Quote: Offside Monkey "Its all very well saying you can let burrow defend out wide, but that means your halfback, who is already hiding out there, has to move one in and mark a 2nd row. '"


I have sympathy wth this but Watkins regularly defends at 4th man in for Leeds and Sinfield at 3rd man in is bigger than most other half backs. And this ought only be for 30 mins tops.

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We have a forward playing at 7, he covers Burrow, it's no big deal plus if you go with Ablett to sure up the channel insteas of Watkins you have another tough uncompromising forward in the backs that can step up the defence

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Quote: Colly2 "I have sympathy wth this but Watkins regularly defends at 4th man in for Leeds and Sinfield at 3rd man in is bigger than most other half backs. And this ought only be for 30 mins tops.'"



This has been a massive failing for Leeds this last season. It doesn't work.

You want your hooker defending down the middle, and your two half backs defending out wide, not three half backs. If you are having Burrow in, it should be as a half back, for which just like hooker he is not as good as the other alternatives, and should not be in the side.

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Quote: Gotcha "This has been a massive failing for Leeds this last season. '"


Leeds have used Burrow at centre for about 3 or 4 seasons now.

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The one big plus in having Burrow on the bench, is that when he comes on, he usually creates a couple of chances, which against the big boys, will be scarce.
Definitely worth a spot on the bench.
Roby to start.

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Quote: Colly2 "Leeds have used Burrow at centre for about 3 or 4 seasons now.'"


When he has been one of the halfs, like I put, and on that basis it is over 10 seasons.. He's only been playing hooker for two seasons, and in the first he had Lunt come on for him and Burrow was only one of two defending out wide. Last season as a regular hooker, there was him and the two halfbacks out wide, which was a failing for Leeds.

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I havnt watched Mcillorum rthat much for Wigan but based of his England performances he shouldnt be anywhere near the squad.

Anyone who can say he is worthy of a place after his stints in the last couple of weeks is on another planet.

Him, T Burgess and Mossop where bad inclusions into the squad and a bed error from banana man.

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Quote: Mystic Yed "We have a forward playing at 7, he covers Burrow, it's no big deal plus if you go with Ablett to sure up the channel insteas of Watkins you have another tough uncompromising forward in the backs that can step up the defence'"

Sinfield is not a forward.

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Don’t see the point in Mcilorum on the bench. Roby can do 80mins, why bring on an inferior version of him to spell with? If we go with a hooker on the bench it should be Burrow or we go with another forward.

Id be tempted to go with Burrow because as big and strong as those Kiwi forwards are they aren’t the most agile or fleet-footed bunch.

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My biggest fear for Burrow is the high amount of head shots he goes through (very difficult for tacklers not to hit him there due to his speed, size and low centre of gravity/running style).

I like him at 7, he can destroy teams from that position

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Quote: retirethename "Why bring this up? Now we have to have page after page of dull comments from wannabe coaches. Both players have good and bad parts of their games. End of.'"

Because it's a discussion board. Otherwise, why bring anything up. Marketing? Then all we get are wannabe marketeers. Rules? Then all we get is wannabe refs. Transfers? Who do you think you are, a wannabee agent? Catering? Wannabe chefs.

Could you hep us out here and list all those things it's OK to bring up without being a wannabe-something?

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Quote: Offside Monkey "Sinfield is not a forward.'"
Sinfield moved Stand Off from loose to reduce his defensive workload, his attacking game hasnt really changed all that much, But he was moved out of loose so that he wasn’t defending up the middle all the time. He is still perfectly capable of defending there for 20/30mins and his defence is outstanding for a halfback.

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Quote: Gotcha "When he has been one of the halfs, like I put, and on that basis it is over 10 seasons.. He's only been playing hooker for two seasons, and in the first he had Lunt come on for him and Burrow was only one of two defending out wide. Last season as a regular hooker, there was him and the two halfbacks out wide, which was a failing for Leeds.'"


Didn't Burrow come off the bench to win Harry Sunderland back in 2011? My recollection is that Burrow, Sinfield and McGuire have spent a lot of time on the field together for quite a number of seasons and certainly longer than just 2013. Looking at Grand Final line-ups from 2011 and 2012 suggests as much. Also, even if Lunt and Burrow interchanged in 2011, that still means Burrow, Sinfield and McGuire were on the pitch together whilst Lunt wasn't - doesn't it?

In any case, looking at Burrow's tackles/misses ratio on the Super League site, he's defended at 266-22, 217-15, 235-21. That's fine for me. Moon's defence one in doesn't seem to have been impacted either.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "Sinfield moved Stand Off from loose to reduce his defensive workload, his attacking game hasnt really changed all that much, But he was moved out of loose so that he wasn’t defending up the middle all the time. He is still perfectly capable of defending there for 20/30mins and his defence is outstanding for a halfback.'"

From what I remember, when you used to pick McGuire and Burrow in the halves, you played them left and right and Sinfield took up responsibility in the centre. This, imo, meant he was playing a half back's game all along and was no more a loose forward than say, Ryan Bailey is when he's named at 13. You'll remember better than me, though.

It doesn't change my stance, his defence may be very good for a half, but I don't want the teams chief organiser being out on his feet because he's doing a load of defending against big guys.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "Don’t see the point in Mcilorum on the bench. Roby can do 80mins, why bring on an inferior version of him to spell with? '"


He is in no way comparable to Roby. There are no comparisons. He is a very, very, destitute, poor man's Isaac Luke.

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