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I will have to wait and watch it on SKY but i think that both decisions should have been penalties possibly with sin binnings.
I remain sceptical about them being penalty tries as the rules stand because you almost never see them in RL. I think their needs to be clarification on this and that a professional foul to stop a try scoring situation should probably be a penalty try.
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| Quote: Cronus "Exactly. Penalty tries are given on the presumption the attacker would have scored without illegal interference.
Seeing as that's the case here, it should have been a penalty try.
Let me spell it out. If you remove Fox from the situation, the hugely massively overwhelming probability, pretty much a guarantee, is that Hodgson - with the ball safely in his hands and travelling over the line in a safe direction - will score. Fox tackles him ILLEGALLY and Hodgson ONLY fails to land cleanly or ground the ball due to Fox tackling him IN THE AIR and pushing him into touch. Without Fox, none of that would have happened.
I'd have been interested to see the reaction if Hodgson had taken out Fox in the exact same circumstances.'"
I've had a think about this and I think you're correct. The referee ('s VR and on field) has to find a reason that it's [inot[/i a try. Hodgson pretty much [idid[/i score a try with what was (I think) illegal interference (suffered with that myself, counselling cast a flipping fortune). As a Rovers fan, I'll take the draw!  |
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| Quote: nick hkr "On the Galea tackle off the ball situation...Brown is not certain to gather the ball cleanly and score, the player that grounded the ball did so on the dead ball line anyway so even if play on were to be given it would have been a 20mtr restart.
As for the tackle in the air, it hasn't been donkey's years at all that this rule about tackling and attacking player in the air is illegal, I did my coaching badge around 6yrs ago and it was certainly the case then and I have the rule book that the RFL provided me with to prove this!!!!!
And now looking back around 4minutes, neither of these decisions should have mattered as Lolesi should have been penalised for being offside, Rovers would have kicked for touch making the 20mtr line and then the pressure is back on Huddersfield at the wrong end of the field for them! Not only do the two penalty try none decisions not matter Rovers were also robbed of the 2pts by an inept touch judge.'"
it's been around since start of superleague at least if not longer.
Case in point, GB v the kiwis in 1998, keith senior catches a bomb and just needs to fall over the line to put the ball down to win the match and probably us the series, henry paul catches him in mid air and puts him into touch, seniors feet never touched the floor before he went over the line, bill harrigan waves it off, cue furore from everyone that actually knows the rules as it was a blatant illegal challenge and the most obvious penalty try ever. |
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| Quote: Cronus "1 terrible call and 1 contentious call from the VR in 2 minutes there.
Hodgson goes up and catches the ball cleanly and is travelling towards and over the tryline. Fox tackles him from the side, IN THE AIR, and pushes him onto the flag and over the touchline. Without Fox's illegal interference there is NO doubt Hodgson would have scored - has to be a penalty try.
The Brown incident is more borderline for me. It seems clear Galea is looking at and for the ball and indeed goes for it with his left hand - BUT, his right arm also goes round Brown, who is effectively tackled and brought down without the ball.
Also, I don't think Brown's hands touched the ball. Galea palmed it with his left hand, it hit Brown's upper thighs and bounced forward, eventually being grounded by an onside player.
Either way, it seems clear he would have probably caught and grounded it without Galea's interference.'"
Galea went for the ball in a one on one, end of story, its not his fault Brown lost control. |
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| Quote: Durham Giant "I will have to wait and watch it on SKY but i think that both decisions should have been penalties possibly with sin binnings.
I remain sceptical about them being penalty tries as the rules stand because you almost never see them in RL. I think their needs to be clarification on this and that a professional foul to stop a try scoring situation should probably be a penalty try.'"
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personally i think the hudds player lolesi? was well offside for the initial kick through anyway.
the galea incident was ok, you can't take away the players right to try and prevent a try in that way, he clearly made a play for the ball.
the tackle in the air for me was a penalty, fox could have waited till hodgesons feet hit the ground and then smashed him into touch
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For my two-penneth ...
Lolesi offside ... yes.
Galea entitled to go for the ball at the same time as Brown ... yes.
Fox guilty of tackling in the air ... yes.
Penalty try ... no ... you could not be 100% certain a try would have followed (and he appeared to lose control of the ball).
Penalty ... in the situation, yes but in theory it should all have stopped at the Lolesi offside.
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