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| Quote: Lawrie L "Another way to look at it is FGB/James Graham said last week that he always gets a warm reception at Headingley and it motivates him'"
You are trying to deflect the actual point as your argument is beginning to look rather weak as is SmokeyTa's. You have resorted to the "the player doesn't mind" and Smokey reckons that "B*****d" and "W****r" are acceptable.
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "Yet despite this you, like I, will not write them fully on a message board. The reason for this is that they are abusive. If you did so, they would be 'cleaned up' as this site bans the use of abusive language, which contradicts your argument. Nor would you expect to hear these words on television before the watershed without complaints, because they are abusive.
Nowhere in the RFL's Respect Policy is the word 'abhorrent' used, it's just a word you have introduced (you do know that one dictionary definition varies from the other 10,000!) to try and justify the words "b*****d" and "w****r", no these are not abhorrent but they are abusive and obscene, which are the words the Respect Policy quotes.
And if you think they are not, I'd suggest it reflects more of your own moral standards of decency.'"
id happily write them, except they come out as and , in fact i went out of my way to spell them in a way which showed what i was saying.
choose which definition of obscene you like, im happy with any of them, but you cant pretend obscene means something it doesnt
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Quote: nottinghamtiger "This is not the Respect Policy, it is the RFL's Code of Conduct. It covers those working and volunteering in the game, not supporters. And it is not what we were oficially fined for breaching (although it might have been more appropriate, I agree).'"
erm no, it is the respect policy
its in their respect brochure
www.therfl.co.uk/~therflc/client ... ochure.pdf
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Quote: nottinghamtiger "This is not the Respect Policy, it is the RFL's Code of Conduct. It covers those working and volunteering in the game, not supporters. And it is not what we were oficially fined for breaching (although it might have been more appropriate, I agree).'"
erm no, it is the respect policy
its in their respect brochure
www.therfl.co.uk/~therflc/client ... ochure.pdf
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| Why, would you suggest, does the site automatically alter the words b*****d and w****r?
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "Why, would you suggest, does the site automatically alter the words b*****d and w****r?'"
because the decision was made it was preferable these words werent used
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "because the decision was made it was preferable these words werent used'"
Why not?
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "You are trying to deflect the actual point as your argument is beginning to look rather weak as is SmokeyTa's. You have resorted to the "the player doesn't mind" and Smokey reckons that "B*****d" and "W****r" are acceptable.'"
But your trying to make it as bad as the Castleford offence
At the end of the day it was a bit cheaky, bit rude, but nothing as shameful as the Jungle incident
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| Quote: Lawrie L "But your trying to make it as bad as the Castleford offence
At the end of the day it was a bit cheaky, bit rude, but nothing as shameful as the Jungle incident'"
No I'm not, homophobic abuse is worse, no question. What I'm saying is it is still against the 'Respect' Policy and as such the RFL should investigate in the interests of fairness.
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "Why not?'"
because they are words which can carry a little more weight than others,
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "No I'm not, homophobic abuse is worse, no question. What I'm saying is it is still against the 'Respect' Policy and as such the RFL should investigate in the interests of fairness.'"
have you read it? i have posted the brochure for you, it does explain the difference
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "because they are words which can carry a little more weight than others,'"
Are you a politician? You, I and everyone else can see that you are arguing against the obvious, most of society find these words offensive and as such as filtered on this site and not allowed to be breadcast before the watershed.
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "No I'm not, homophobic abuse is worse, no question. What I'm saying is it is still against the 'Respect' Policy and as such the RFL should investigate in the interests of fairness.'"
RFL would spend most of the working week investigating
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "have you read it? i have posted the brochure for you, it does explain the difference'"
I'm in the middle of it now. I have read the bit re: sexual orientation and this is more specific in this document, I agree. I had only ever seen the overarching 'Respect' Policy as quoted earlier in the thread. Perhaps the RFL could give this brochure to speccies so we have more guidance on what we can and cannot chant?
However, I still think the use of the abusive language already detailed is in breach of the 'Respect' policy.
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "Are you a politician? You, I and everyone else can see that you are arguing against the obvious, most of society find these words offensive and as such as filtered on this site and not allowed to be breadcast before the watershed.'"
Yet they are still allowed to be broadcast.
You want to compare the difference, look at the reaction to the utterances of Ron Atkinson, Carole thatcher, Michael ,jade goody, tim hardaway, beanie Mann who made homophobic or racist statements.
and then compare them with the hundreds, if not thousands of times a week b'a'stard and w'a'nker are uttered on british tv programmes with not one complaint
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "it depends on the situation, the fans of the club doing it, and the response of the club'"
A nothing answer as usual
Try the 2 nd part again
If there are Homophobic , racist orsexist chants heard at the KC stadium , the LSV or the Stobart stadium
Who gets fined ?
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