And that is why the entire proposal is nonesense and as such I cant even believe it is being pushed the way it is. Unless all clubs are full time and get similar levels of funding then it simply will not work. As there is not enough money in the game to raise the salary cap and sustain 14 teams then there certainly isnt to sustain the 24 full time teams that would be needed for this to work.

If the stupid split is voted ahead, that will be the final straw for me.

And yet some like myself might well be tempted back by having meaningful fixtures again

That is not to say I think this is a good idea, IMO licencing could have worked better, but it required more support for the lower tiers and a more honest approach from the RFL, but that went straight out of the window with the Crusader farce

No. Wrong. The new structure will be fantastic for the game here and if, as proposed, it is left in place for decades, the game will be stonger and grow incrementally over time.

The clubs mentioned currently at the top end of the Championship will have central funding (Sky money) 5 times more than they get now plus, with something to play for (i.e promotion), will generate higher revenue themselves. There will be 23 league games in the initial 12 team leagues each season with only 7 after the the 8-8-8 split.

We're talking about what's best for RL in this country not in Australia (where they both do what is best for them & where they obsess more with aping the USA rather than Europe).

Can you point me towards where you have got these figures and how much does a Championship club get now? After all 5 times say £50,000 is still sweet FA in terms of running a full time squad competing against Wigan, Leeds, Saints etc on crowds of 10,000+ and getting £1.2 million in Sky money. It is still nothing compared to the likes of Hull KR, Wakefield etc getting this amount of Sky money and approx 8,000 crowds. What about the clubs at the bottom end of the Championship, how much will they get in this new structure? Is this less than the top Championship clubs you mention?

How many suns on your planet?


The clubs at the top average about 2,000 attendance......the game in general can't attract sponsors, but youthink Fev v London at the end of the season is the answer





I dunno......a billion dollar TV deals and 17k averages aren't too shabby

The details are not yet known as the RFL Executive is still formulating them prior to being voted on by the clubs. My information is that the amounts will be determined each season and vary according to final league placings but, intially, I understand current top end Championship clubs will get nearer £700k rather than c £140k.

But will the part time clubs genuinely have have anything to play for. As gutterfax pointed out, they just aren't going to be able to compete against full time clubs.

Also, when the four clubs are relegated after 22 games, how is that going to effect them financially. They still have to pay for a full time squad, but do it by playing Seven games that will attract 1000-4000 each game.

Even if they do sustain that, surely that will effect recruitment for the next year while the "top 8" will have enjoyed decent crowds, and will be much financially stronger for the next season. It will effect recruitment, players will only want to sign for a top 8 club (even if that means not playing much) as I can't see them wantin to play part time teams at the end of the year.

I fear we will have the same 8 every year, the same 4. Coming up and down every. Crowds below the 8 dwindling, that puts clubs at risk each year, and I fear clubs below the 8 will struggle.

The RFL seemed so fix on been innovative as creating competitive games that they have come up with an idea that just won't work below the 8. This is a massive decision for th RFL and I feel it is something you would hear on a blue Peter program!

I really dont see how that can be the case to be honest unless the Super League clubs are going to accept less money, which firstly isnt going to happen and secondly even if it did it would only weaken the game even further in this country. What about the rest of the Championship clubs, unless they get simlar amounts to the top Championship clubs then it will just create a 2 tier 2nd division 12 team league with the same teams finishing in the top 4 every year.

There simply isnt the money in the game to make this plan work and we will simply get a 2 tier top 12, a 2 tier 2nd division and the same teams in the 8-8-8 splits each year. The only way it can possibly work is if every one of the 24 teams got the same level of funding and that cannot and shouldnt happen as RL cannot sustain it and it would destroy the only big clubs that the game has got (which is what the elite competition should be all about).

Scrap the salary cap and it might work, that way ambitious Champs clubs that have wealthy owners and/or big sponsors on board can compete with SL clubs without just relying on Sky money.

People seem to be forgetting that the bottom half of SL cant compete with the top half unless we continue to reduce onfield standards.

You seem to have forgotten that these same club need to reduce there expenditure to stop themselves from being leeches to generous benefactors & constantly knocking on the door of bankruptcy every season.
P&R in what ever form it takes will help them to do this

given by licensing.