So are you in full support, or at least acceptance of, racist and homophobic abuse.....or are you actively against all negative commentary from the crowd?

Just out of interest , if there are some homophobic chants heard at the racecourse ground Wrexham

Who gets fined ?

I assume he is against all abuse, rather than against 'negative commentary'

Bingo, someone with a bit of sense.

To all those jelous mindless idiots foaming at the mouth. Calling someone Fat, Ginger, Big eared, and the like although maybe wrong, is accepted in society. Making racist, homophobic, or sexist comments are not.

The RFL follow the exact same principle as society. Surely people are not stupid enough to beleive the RFL should operate a different rule to society in general?

You don't like then start a campaign at government level. It's nothing to do with the RFL.

I challenge you to put up that policy that states exactly what you have put. Because I have read through and it ineed gives no mention of hair colour, size, or cults.

What is he doing about it? Other than moaning about a fine one club got for abuse?

I'll keep playing devil's advocate here until somebody attempts an answer

If there are homophobic chants heard at the racecourse ground Wrexham

Who gets fined ?

If there are homophobic , racist or sexist chants heard at say the KC stadium , the LSV or the Stobart stadium

Who gets fined ?

The rfl respect policy does use the phrase 'no form of discrimination will be tolerated'.

Last time i checked that meant 'we wont allow any sort of discrimination against anyone, no matter what form that discrimination takes'

Name your source Gotcha,
you are wrong btw

So the home fans must support the away team equally?

Thanks Hopie, saved me the time. It's an RFL respect policy, not British law, and it is under that respect policy that Cas were found to be guilty.

As i've said already, my posts aren't to distinguish between gingerism, homophobia and the rest. The use of the gingerisms as an example was to show that under the RFLs own policy, the one they have accused cas of breaching, every other clubs fans are breaching this very same policy. Of course i'm against racist and homophobic chants, at no time have i tried to make out i wasn't or that gingerisms are worse, equal, better than homophobic chanting. The point, one last time, is that gingerism is against the RFL policy because it is abusive, especially if in the same sentance as the words "you're just ginger fat, barsteward". This thread is about Cas being fined and in my opinion singled out for this fine, as per the RFLs own statement. Abuse is abuse under the RFL policy, ginger and gay.

I'm also not suggesting that Leeds and every other club should now be fined £40k. I'm suggesting the RFL are wrong to fine Cas if they are to fine Cas alone. IMO you can also go into the fine further and question what else Cas could do to stop the chanting given everything they have quoted in their appeal statement.

Can you explain which of those you highlighted werent subjective?

Ill give you a clue, its [igender, age, race, disability, religion, faith, sexual orientation[/i everything else is down to a subjective judgement. This is because gender, age, race, disability, religion, faith, sexual orientation are viewed by normal people and society in general as bigger issues than someone mocking James Graham

everything else you have listed is a subjective judgement, it seems the RFL have excised the same subjective judgement of almost everybody else in the world and decided that calling James Graham for being ginger isnt in the same league as calling Gareth Thomas for being gay

so you arent saying that gingerism and homophobia are the same, and you arent saying that leeds should be fined for chanting about gingers.

But you are saying because leeds werent fined for chanting about gingers Cas shouldnt be fined for homophobic chanting, even though you arent saying anti-ginger and homophobic chanting are the same, but then you are saying abuse is abuse whether ginger or gay?

you do realise how ridiculous and contradictory that is dont you? If anti ginger chanting and homophobic chanting arent the same then the chanting on Saturday is completely irrelevant.

it depends on the situation, the fans of the club doing it, and the response of the club