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| Quote ="RobRiches"Feel free to put your hand in your pocket so the website doesn’t need adverts….'"
Maybe we should all put in a fiver a year for each username we have on here. That should cover costs.
Have you got a spare 2 grand lying around LeBron? 
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Have you got a spare 2 grand lying around LeBron?
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He would have to ask for extra pocket money
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Ok, I will answer questions about the framework of the site, but not the adverts as I don't look after that side of things.
The site is built on the same product we started the site on almost 25 years ago, so it is wholly out of date and vast in its size, it was an off the shelf product and we have got a bit stuck with it over the years. I have, as best as possible, massaged the site to keep it alive throughout that period and added custom written functionality, like the like system, the right column of tables and the customised profiles, themes for clubs etc......
I have rewritten the site almost entirely into a more lean and customisable version already, it is about 70% done. As you can imagine writing things like this takes a lot of time, and I work full time as well and am the only tech person on the site who can do any code whatsever.
I am hoping that in the new year we migrate to the new setup, it will look almost exactly like the current one to begin with, then I can mold it into the things we need and hopefully leave the bugs behind or fix them quickly.
But all this takes time and I am pretty short of that.
If the site earned enough money to employ me I would do it all now, but it doesn't come anywhere near and it is a labour of love.
I am always keen to know peoples experiences on the site and its usability, so please send them into me paul@rlfans.com or paul.coward@rlfans.com and we will do our best to fulfill them in the new site version or fix them here.
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Ok, I will answer questions about the framework of the site, but not the adverts as I don't look after that side of things.
The site is built on the same product we started the site on almost 25 years ago, so it is wholly out of date and vast in its size, it was an off the shelf product and we have got a bit stuck with it over the years. I have, as best as possible, massaged the site to keep it alive throughout that period and added custom written functionality, like the like system, the right column of tables and the customised profiles, themes for clubs etc......
I have rewritten the site almost entirely into a more lean and customisable version already, it is about 70% done. As you can imagine writing things like this takes a lot of time, and I work full time as well and am the only tech person on the site who can do any code whatsever.
I am hoping that in the new year we migrate to the new setup, it will look almost exactly like the current one to begin with, then I can mold it into the things we need and hopefully leave the bugs behind or fix them quickly.
But all this takes time and I am pretty short of that.
If the site earned enough money to employ me I would do it all now, but it doesn't come anywhere near and it is a labour of love.
I am always keen to know peoples experiences on the site and its usability, so please send them into me paul@rlfans.com or paul.coward@rlfans.com and we will do our best to fulfill them in the new site version or fix them here.
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Quote ="Sadfish"Ok, I will answer questions about the framework of the site, but not the adverts as I don't look after that side of things.
The site is built on the same product we started the site on almost 25 years ago, so it is wholly out of date and vast in its size, it was an off the shelf product and we have got a bit stuck with it over the years. I have, as best as possible, massaged the site to keep it alive throughout that period and added custom written functionality, like the like system, the right column of tables and the customised profiles, themes for clubs etc......
I have rewritten the site almost entirely into a more lean and customisable version already, it is about 70% done. As you can imagine writing things like this takes a lot of time, and I work full time as well and am the only tech person on the site who can do any code whatsever.
I am hoping that in the new year we migrate to the new setup, it will look almost exactly like the current one to begin with, then I can mold it into the things we need and hopefully leave the bugs behind or fix them quickly.
But all this takes time and I am pretty short of that.
If the site earned enough money to employ me I would do it all now, but it doesn't come anywhere near and it is a labour of love.
I am always keen to know peoples experiences on the site and its usability, so please send them into me paul@rlfans.com or paul.coward@rlfans.com and we will do our best to fulfill them in the new site version or fix them here.'"
Thanks Paul.
Just to further clarify, my OP wasn’t one of moaning about the usability or the existence of adverts - I completely get the need for the latter.
I was just wondering if there was an alternate to the URL I was using (such as an app I hadn’t noticed or discovered).
Your hard work is appreciated and it would be a shame to ever be without this forum. Bugs & adverts or not.
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Quote ="Sadfish"Ok, I will answer questions about the framework of the site, but not the adverts as I don't look after that side of things.
The site is built on the same product we started the site on almost 25 years ago, so it is wholly out of date and vast in its size, it was an off the shelf product and we have got a bit stuck with it over the years. I have, as best as possible, massaged the site to keep it alive throughout that period and added custom written functionality, like the like system, the right column of tables and the customised profiles, themes for clubs etc......
I have rewritten the site almost entirely into a more lean and customisable version already, it is about 70% done. As you can imagine writing things like this takes a lot of time, and I work full time as well and am the only tech person on the site who can do any code whatsever.
I am hoping that in the new year we migrate to the new setup, it will look almost exactly like the current one to begin with, then I can mold it into the things we need and hopefully leave the bugs behind or fix them quickly.
But all this takes time and I am pretty short of that.
If the site earned enough money to employ me I would do it all now, but it doesn't come anywhere near and it is a labour of love.
I am always keen to know peoples experiences on the site and its usability, so please send them into me paul@rlfans.com or paul.coward@rlfans.com and we will do our best to fulfill them in the new site version or fix them here.'"
Thanks Paul.
Just to further clarify, my OP wasn’t one of moaning about the usability or the existence of adverts - I completely get the need for the latter.
I was just wondering if there was an alternate to the URL I was using (such as an app I hadn’t noticed or discovered).
Your hard work is appreciated and it would be a shame to ever be without this forum. Bugs & adverts or not.
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| Quote ="Azul"Thanks Paul.
Just to further clarify, my OP wasn’t one of moaning about the usability or the existence of adverts - I completely get the need for the latter.
I was just wondering if there was an alternate to the URL I was using (such as an app I hadn’t noticed or discovered).
Your hard work is appreciated and it would be a shame to ever be without this forum. Bugs & adverts or not.'"
There are links to mobile apps on the burger menu at the top.
All critism is accepted here, no issues, we may not act upon it though 
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Quote ="Sadfish"Ok, I will answer questions about the framework of the site, but not the adverts as I don't look after that side of things.
The site is built on the same product we started the site on almost 25 years ago, so it is wholly out of date and vast in its size, it was an off the shelf product and we have got a bit stuck with it over the years. I have, as best as possible, massaged the site to keep it alive throughout that period and added custom written functionality, like the like system, the right column of tables and the customised profiles, themes for clubs etc......
I have rewritten the site almost entirely into a more lean and customisable version already, it is about 70% done. As you can imagine writing things like this takes a lot of time, and I work full time as well and am the only tech person on the site who can do any code whatsever.
I am hoping that in the new year we migrate to the new setup, it will look almost exactly like the current one to begin with, then I can mold it into the things we need and hopefully leave the bugs behind or fix them quickly.
But all this takes time and I am pretty short of that.
If the site earned enough money to employ me I would do it all now, but it doesn't come anywhere near and it is a labour of love.
I am always keen to know peoples experiences on the site and its usability, so please send them into me paul@rlfans.com or paul.coward@rlfans.com and we will do our best to fulfill them in the new site version or fix them here.'"
Ignore the trolls mate. If they were that bothered they would put their hands in their pockets.
Wouldn’t mind but have you Salford’s website? It’s like a load of primary school kids designed it
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Quote ="Sadfish"Ok, I will answer questions about the framework of the site, but not the adverts as I don't look after that side of things.
The site is built on the same product we started the site on almost 25 years ago, so it is wholly out of date and vast in its size, it was an off the shelf product and we have got a bit stuck with it over the years. I have, as best as possible, massaged the site to keep it alive throughout that period and added custom written functionality, like the like system, the right column of tables and the customised profiles, themes for clubs etc......
I have rewritten the site almost entirely into a more lean and customisable version already, it is about 70% done. As you can imagine writing things like this takes a lot of time, and I work full time as well and am the only tech person on the site who can do any code whatsever.
I am hoping that in the new year we migrate to the new setup, it will look almost exactly like the current one to begin with, then I can mold it into the things we need and hopefully leave the bugs behind or fix them quickly.
But all this takes time and I am pretty short of that.
If the site earned enough money to employ me I would do it all now, but it doesn't come anywhere near and it is a labour of love.
I am always keen to know peoples experiences on the site and its usability, so please send them into me paul@rlfans.com or paul.coward@rlfans.com and we will do our best to fulfill them in the new site version or fix them here.'"
Ignore the trolls mate. If they were that bothered they would put their hands in their pockets.
Wouldn’t mind but have you Salford’s website? It’s like a load of primary school kids designed it
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| Quote ="RobRiches"Ignore the trolls mate. If they were that bothered they would put their hands in their pockets.
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That seems a weird thing to say.
I wasn't under the impression that the site needed financial support. In fact, I was under the impression that the site had donated four figure sums to charities and through sponsorship on several occasions?
I used to regularly give financial support to the Leeds board when it was SouthStanders.com, but I don't think I've even seen any requests since it was merged with RLfans.
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| Quote ="Leeds_Luke"That seems a weird thing to say.
I wasn't under the impression that the site needed financial support. In fact, I was under the impression that the site had donated four figure sums to charities and through sponsorship on several occasions?
I used to regularly give financial support to the Leeds board when it was SouthStanders.com, but I don't think I've even seen any requests since it was merged with RLfans.'"
We don't grift, we have ads that produce enough revenue to keep up rolling along, we have donated money to charities and RL clubs all through our history and will continue to do so as we seem fit.
I think the poster was suggesting that people who block ads should be ignored, but we don't really have a policy over that, it is up to the users.
If we did have more income then more could be done, via marketing and promotion, but we aren't in RL Chat for the grift, just as a place for people to air their views, as long as we keep that going and enough people allow ads we will continue, if enough people block ads, we will end up stopping.
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| Quote ="RobRiches"Ignore the trolls mate. If they were that bothered they would put their hands in their pockets.
Wouldn’t mind but have you Salford’s website? It’s like a load of primary school kids designed it'"
And you'd know because you probably entered a submission to the competition.
You really must try harder LeBron, your attempts at humour are getting worse by the day. 
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| Quote ="Leeds_Luke"That seems a weird thing to say.
I wasn't under the impression that the site needed financial support. In fact, I was under the impression that the site had donated four figure sums to charities and through sponsorship on several occasions?
I used to regularly give financial support to the Leeds board when it was SouthStanders.com, but I don't think I've even seen any requests since it was merged with RLfans.'"
It’s not a weird thing to say though Is it. It doesn’t take a simpleton to work out that the ads are there for a reason.
As for southstander.com “merging” I think it’s more a case of rlfans giving it a home
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| Quote ="RobRiches"It’s not a weird thing to say though Is it. It doesn’t take a simpleton to work out that the ads are there for a reason.'"
It is a weird thing to say. Calling people 'trolls' for having a civilised discussion that may benefit everyone using the board? Just because you don't like what they are saying? Ironic coming from the biggest troll on the board.
Also, the ads could be there to pay for web hosting, or could be there for greed. They may even be put there by a third party who is hosting the site and not benefiting the site owner at all. I'm sure only the admin know.
If it is for hosting, there could be easier ways of making the money, whilst providing a more user friendly site. That would potentially encourage more users if the constant barrage of ads were removed.
Simply asking for donations, or a membership with an added benefit. SouthStander.com would send you a pin badge and make enough money to pay for hosting, and sponsor a first team player, for example.
Even making the adverts more integrated with the site and less irritating for the user would be better.
Quote ="RobRiches"As for southstander.com “merging” I think it’s more a case of rlfans giving it a home'"
I get the feeling you said that out of spite as it adds very little to the discussion. It doesn't really matter either way, does it? It was the board that got the most traffic at the time, and probably still does.
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| Quote ="Leeds_Luke"It is a weird thing to say. Calling people 'trolls' for having a civilised discussion that may benefit everyone using the board? Just because you don't like what they are saying? Ironic coming from the biggest troll on the board.
Also, the ads could be there to pay for web hosting, or could be there for greed. They may even be put there by a third party who is hosting the site and not benefiting the site owner at all. I'm sure only the admin know.
If it is for hosting, there could be easier ways of making the money, whilst providing a more user friendly site. That would potentially encourage more users if the constant barrage of ads were removed.
Simply asking for donations, or a membership with an added benefit. SouthStander.com would send you a pin badge and make enough money to pay for hosting, and sponsor a first team player, for example.
Even making the adverts more integrated with the site and less irritating for the user would be better.
I get the feeling you said that out of spite as it adds very little to the discussion. It doesn't really matter either way, does it? It was the board that got the most traffic at the time, and probably still does.'"
And you unfortunately just fed him.
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| The adverts do indeed pay for: hosting, domains, security certificates, licenses and insurance. We do also occasionally donate to worthy causes and sponsorships. Without the adverts, or an alternative of equal value, there would sadly be no RLFANS.COM. As we have struggled over the years and put our own money in to keep the site running, the option of no RLFANS.COM is something that we have considered.
If we were to offer a totally 'Ads free' site for a monthly subscription, is this something which would appeal to people? What would be a reasonable monthly charge for such a subscription?
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| Who cares about the adverts. It literally takes half a second to close the add down. It’s only absolute losers that would complain about a service they don’t pay for
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| Quote ="Seth"It's a real mystery as to why VT has died on its arris
I'd guess the primary reason is nothing to do with ads...'"
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| Quote ="Leeds_Luke"That seems a weird thing to say.
I wasn't under the impression that the site needed financial support. In fact, I was under the impression that the site had donated four figure sums to charities and through sponsorship on several occasions?
I used to regularly give financial support to the Leeds board when it was SouthStanders.com, but I don't think I've even seen any requests since it was merged with RLfans.'"
It wasn’t “merged”. Rlfans gave it a life line.
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| Any chance we can get this site sorted? It’s becoming borderline unusable now and really can’t see it lasting much longer. I understand the need to have adverts, but I can’t see it being a requirement that they have to be all over the forum and as obstructive as possible? It’s counterintuitive. You’d get more revenue from ads by attracting more people to the site not driving them away
Not sure what’s happened lately but there seems to be some invisible ad that obstructs the majority of the page, as if I give the page time to load I physically can’t click into any threads. I’m forced to refresh the page and try to click into the thread as quickly as possible before whatever it is has chance to load.
There’s about 4 different ads constantly covering up half the screen. Spend more time closing ads than I do reading any threads
Every time I try to click quote it just loads up a completely blank page
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| I use an AD blocker called umbra it removes all ads and you can the use the site easily. You may have to turn it off if you use betting sites but it’s no big deal.
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I don't think RLFANS would welcome such post when it tries to generate money through Ads.
Keeping shtum would be wiser thing to do. 
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| [quote="Cokey":2tg7xhke]I don't think RLFANS would welcome such post when it tries to generate money through Ads.
Keeping shtum would be wiser thing to do.  [/quote:2tg7xhke]
They will still get paid, people can choose what they want to see I have broken no rules so I won’t keep shtum as you say.
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| Use duck duck go browser. Have to sign in slightly more but no adds
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