Say what you mean.

totally agree with Vasty but I'm a whippet breeding northerner with my RLfans page set-up to Flat cap mode !

The unfortunate fact is that if Fax and Fev had the fans on the terraces, they would be in SL and they would be welcome.

What if they had an extremely wealthy backer like London do, because they sure as hell don’t have the fans either.

Watching Fev on BBC play a "massive" CC game against Wigan on a sh*tty pitch in a 1940's run down ground was a complete embarrassment to the game.

Lets move on- Fev are the past. Lets move to areas where there is money and sell the game-The M62 is saturated with small town RL teams who have no potential.

You don't get it that SL cant get a sponsor because the game is based in pit villages running across the Pennines. There is no "sell"

Remind me again..... where will the nomads be playing next year in front of their massive crowds you soft southern nancy?

Back in the old Stones Bitter days, Fax used to be pretty well supported although, their last visit to the top flight did see some truly woeful crowds, mind you this was matched by equally poor results on the field.
IF they could muster some success then Fax in particular could achieve 8000 +, the question is how could they compete on the field of play ?

If someone genuinely owes you money and you have to take them to court, they will be responsible for any costs incurred. That's how it works when I take my bad debt to the solicitors (i'm self employed).

There's "no sell"

There are no customers you fool.

No one bar a few thousand hardy souls (mostly exiled northerners) want a RL team in London - they don't care they never have and they never will.

The M62 corridor has a bigger population than many countries including Scotland and Wales and is yet to be fully exploited. If you had any real thought pattern you'd understand this.

Most people in the north are emotionally secure enough not to give a stuff what happens in London or what Londoners think and are happy with the game as it is even if it doesn't match Soccer or RU for exposure or cash. So what, you play to your strength and give the fans the best you can. Many sports do quite nicely without national coverage, a blue chip sponsor or a team in London.

We are the lucky ones, we have TGG and if they can't see that the tuff - they should be begging us and they are not so sod them.

Be proud, be northern and admire the likes of Featherstone which is little more than a street but has created a pro RL club with a MODERN (because you clearly never watched the game) STADIUM.

London on the other hand with their pitiful crowds v population, borrowed stadium and less than brilliant playing record remain an embarrassment to the game of RL.

Where are all these pit villages Wire Quin?
Rather out of date aren't you?
Can't remember last time I saw a bloke in a flat cap with a whippet either.
I remember once hosting a load southern businessmen who expected to see all muckstacks and grime.
They were amazed at how much beautiful open countryside there was in West Yorkshire.
And that was in the days of pits.

Stand still and the game will follow Comet and HMV who have refused to move with the times.

As a fan of the Broncos there is no bigger critic than me of what is going on. As Tony Rea says the potential is massive- if London RL becomes big SL will be better for it. Fev, Fax will never get crowds of any note that will exceed the poxy numbers we get at the Stoop currently (at best 2-4k for the bigger games-don’t quote the Pie CC one off)- The M62 area is saturated you really don’t get it do you.

Probably not.

But there is an obvious difference in what we would be trying to achieve in London, and what we are doing in Fax/Fev. There is also the question of the maturity of the market not to mention its potential etc etc.

Were they well supported? Realistically? Were they comparable to Wigan etc?If anything that’s a huge argument against Halifax moving up, with some success, good work at marketing/board level, a little luck and a fair wind, Fax’ could, possibly, with a bit of time, get to 80% of where they need to be.

Smokey, I remember going to Craven Cottage back in the day for a C.C tie & the place was rocking, maybe due to the novelty value.

But, thirty odd years have now passed by and the London experiment has faltered & stagnated to a hard core of fans, with a very wealthy bloke propping them up.

You can quite rightly bang on about “potential” but who’s going to pick up the bill when the Sugar Daddy finally bails?

Surely watching the game is all about aspirations & the supporters of the Featherstone’s of this world deserve to watch their team play top flight rugby.

They see their club meet the criteria on the field, they see the ground development & potential new sponsorship coming in yet, they tune in to Sky and see London getting spanked by Leeds in a ground devoid of any passion.

I would much rather see Post Office Road full to brim to see the all conquering Leeds side than the humiliation of empty stands at the Stoop, one may be a grimy northern town but the alternative is far more offensive on the eye.

Bring Back P&R!