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| Quote: Cronus "
He grounds the ball incorrectly precisely BECAUSE Fox is shoving him into touch; he rushes it in an attempt to ground it before finding touch. The overwhelming odds dictate that without interference, Hodgson would have grounded the ball cleanly. He was travelling over the try line with the ball in his possession. There is NO reason whatsoever to presume otherwise.'"
He lands on the ground steadies himself and fails to ground the ball correctly. Who is to say he'd ground it otherwise. Your simply presuming.
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7063.jpg ‎"They supercede individuals, they supercede the team and they supercede the club. Our club is a traditional, working class club and the supporters are loyal and passionate and to see them go away happy really makes my day." Craig Sandercock.:7063.jpg |
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| Quote: Gaslight "Aussies have a load of different rules most are pretty inane but the 10 subs (same as international) is one of the better ones along with the people who pack a scrum down to stop the clock have to stay formed, and football does have seperate rules, for example the MLS has extra time for league games.'"
National leagues have different points scoring rules and the NRL golden point thats not the same as different technical rules. In football everygame played between that 90 mins are played using the same rules.
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| Quote: Easty "He lands on the ground steadies himself and fails to ground the ball correctly. Who is to say he'd ground it otherwise. Your simply presuming.'"
Exactly. Penalty tries are given on the presumption the attacker would have scored without illegal interference.
Seeing as that's the case here, it should have been a penalty try.
Let me spell it out. If you remove Fox from the situation, the hugely massively overwhelming probability, pretty much a guarantee, is that Hodgson - with the ball safely in his hands and travelling over the line in a safe direction - will score. Fox tackles him ILLEGALLY and Hodgson ONLY fails to land cleanly or ground the ball due to Fox tackling him IN THE AIR and pushing him into touch. Without Fox, none of that would have happened.
I'd have been interested to see the reaction if Hodgson had taken out Fox in the exact same circumstances.
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24148_1315916334.jpg [quote="OFFTHECUFF":1xb0p6sn] Wish i could watch a team like Leigh. [/quote:1xb0p6sn]
[quote="Steve":1xb0p6sn] Dislike Leigh with a passion, but they are a million miles ahead of any other club in this league, a sad fact. [/quote:1xb0p6sn]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_24148.jpg |
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| Quote: Cronus "Exactly. Penalty tries are given on the presumption the attacker would have scored without illegal interference.
Seeing as that's the case here, it should have been a penalty try.
Let me spell it out. If you remove Fox from the situation, the hugely massively overwhelming probability, pretty much a guarantee, is that Hodgson - with the ball safely in his hands and travelling over the line in a safe direction - will score. Fox tackles him ILLEGALLY and Hodgson ONLY fails to land cleanly or ground the ball due to Fox tackling him IN THE AIR and pushing him into touch. Without Fox, none of that would have happened.
I'd have been interested to see the reaction if Hodgson had taken out Fox in the exact same circumstances.'"
The last sentence says it all. If it was the other way round every hull KR fan would be saying it should have been a penalty try. I'm not saying the KR fans are making things up, just that they are ( obviously ) biased as any fan would be towards thier own team. I doubt there are many neutrals who would disagree that a penalty try should have been awarded!
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| Quote: Nozzy "The last sentence says it all. If it was the other way round every hull KR fan would be saying it should have been a penalty try. I'm not saying the KR fans are making things up, just that they are ( obviously ) biased as any fan would be towards thier own team. I doubt there are many neutrals who would disagree that a penalty try should have been awarded!'"
Despite 3 Super League coaches stating they thought it was a legal tackle!
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24148_1315916334.jpg [quote="OFFTHECUFF":1xb0p6sn] Wish i could watch a team like Leigh. [/quote:1xb0p6sn]
[quote="Steve":1xb0p6sn] Dislike Leigh with a passion, but they are a million miles ahead of any other club in this league, a sad fact. [/quote:1xb0p6sn]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_24148.jpg |
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| Quote: Barney Stinson "Despite 3 Super League coaches stating they thought it was a legal tackle!'"
Yep, you can't tackle somebody whilst he's still in the air. He did, therefore penalty.
He commited this penalty whilst Hodgson was in the act of scoring. If he hadn't commited that penalty then I would say (with the evidence available) that the overwhelming probablility was that he would have scored. So IMO a penalty offence was commited that directly stopped an almost certain try. So a penalty try should have been awarded.
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23997_1287161421.jpg [quote="Mark"]Great game of rugby league. Fantastic atmosphere, Wigan were breathtaking and dominant in all areas for the first 25 minutes, coupled with us making alot of dumb mistakes,then fortunately they brought McIlorum on which helped us back into the game. I thought some of the tries we scored to get us within two we're out of this world stuff. Towards the end we had to force it a little and we had a few things go wrong, i.e Monas kick on the first for King and Solomona going off who was causing havoc. Wigan were clinical in their eventual execution of us. Proud of Wire today and gave us a little glimpse to the future. Silverwood was awful as per, but I expect no less. Tomkins is a world class player and by far the best english player in SL. Wigan are a champion side and would be a worthy winner of taking our title as challenge cup. Good luck over the next month and a bit.[/quote]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_23997.jpg |
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| He went for the ball it's a contact sport what do you want him to do?
You cant tackle a player in the air
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| so hudds did nothing wrong all game then and was good little soldiers bull s'@t
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| Wow, what a way to miss the point of the debate.
The three coaches showed perhaps whats wrong with English RL...they dont actually know the rules!
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| I will have to wait and watch it on SKY but i think that both decisions should have been penalties possibly with sin binnings.
I remain sceptical about them being penalty tries as the rules stand because you almost never see them in RL. I think their needs to be clarification on this and that a professional foul to stop a try scoring situation should probably be a penalty try.
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| Quote: Cronus "Exactly. Penalty tries are given on the presumption the attacker would have scored without illegal interference.
Seeing as that's the case here, it should have been a penalty try.
Let me spell it out. If you remove Fox from the situation, the hugely massively overwhelming probability, pretty much a guarantee, is that Hodgson - with the ball safely in his hands and travelling over the line in a safe direction - will score. Fox tackles him ILLEGALLY and Hodgson ONLY fails to land cleanly or ground the ball due to Fox tackling him IN THE AIR and pushing him into touch. Without Fox, none of that would have happened.
I'd have been interested to see the reaction if Hodgson had taken out Fox in the exact same circumstances.'"
I've had a think about this and I think you're correct. The referee ('s VR and on field) has to find a reason that it's [inot[/i a try. Hodgson pretty much [idid[/i score a try with what was (I think) illegal interference (suffered with that myself, counselling cast a flipping fortune). As a Rovers fan, I'll take the draw!
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