huddersfield &cas have had 1 year outof SL salford have had 2 all the rest have never been out of it.do you not think with that kind of stability and financial backing leigh fax oldham even workington could of done just as good a job as any team other than bulls saints wigan leeds ?

i use to be quite chilled on expansion till i read posts from yourself and your ilk now i've come to the conclusion rugby league does'nt exist anymore just like rugby union now weve got rugby and super league

get your facts right mate HKR were getting 1500 and most of them were fighting amongst them selves

without doubt some clubs are run by buisness men who think there is something to be financially gained from running a club[maybe thats why clubs at all levels end up owing loads of money to her majesty and others] but i think most clubs are run by people who think they can do a top job without having the money to back it up.

no ones asking for the same money SL clubs get that would put us at the same level of stupidity that you exist in.what thev championship clubs need is some of this money the RFL get from sky tv.if the clubs dont want to part with any of this money thats fine let the championships go look for there own TV deal it really is that simple

history lesson.

to get the decision to go to summer approved, Sky provided the RFL with a massve TV deal of 87 million / 5 years

a part of this went to clubs outside SL to pay off debts. despite this payment these clubs still are financially poor.

SL clubs dont get enough money to forgo some for clubs outside SL

if clubs outside SL cant show the RFL they can progress, theyve got no one to blame but themselves

1.winter spring summer autumn,what a ucking stupid arguement to push.2 i bow to your better knowledge but did it also go to SL clubs to pay off there debts and they are still in debt.3 you've just confirmed that SL and rugby league are now 2 completely different entities

without the SL clubs going forward RL would be effectively dead in england.

the game needs 14 or 16 clubs like wigan/hull fc/leeds.

they get the fans, media, big bucks etc.

Fk me Dally, 7 pages since yesterday.

When you hijack a thread you REALLY hijack a thread don'tcha?

Might I asuggest going outside now and then and getting some vitamin D would be good for your health and your outlook?

It already is on a terminal decline.



Yes but isn't going to happen due to the myopic, narrowminded, blinkered view of the game by mainly the SL clubs but also by the RFL



"BIG BUCKS" Of course they do and then throw it all away on never was, never will be , past it, crocked, holidaying, pension seeking overseas players who give nothing back to the game.

"MEDIA"

Who allowed that ' Cheating ' to occur and why ?

i prefer girls mate, sorry