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[quote="King Street Cat":1wa9s43t]Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.[/quote:1wa9s43t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6731.jpg |
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| Quote: headhunter "Wouldn't argue with that to be fair, the vast majority don't have any interest in rugby at all other than to support Wales, and genuine rugby fans are usually quite knowledgable and positive towards RL. I doubt the 'rugby day' tourists actually enjoy the game itself, because let's face it RU is like watching paint dry at the best of times. They just want to get drunk and support their nation in the best way they know. I doubt then that they would have too much interest in MM, or in watching any of the regions either.'"
I'm laughing more at the fact an ex rugby league fan that has turned his back on the game still hangs about and posts on here. |
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| Quote: PHIPPS "Well yes but on Saturday most people tend to use Queen St.
And another important fact is that trains from places such as the Rhondda, the Cynon Valley, Pontypridd and Merthyr (which if I dare say it will be carrying a lot of your potential target audience) go through Queen St before they arrive at Central. I would suggest most of the passengers on Saturday will get off there.'"
No comments better illustrate what a made up persona you are. Most people get off at queen street? You're full of it. |
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| Quote: Grendel "And Vikingsmurf, I hear you about Aberystwyth. I returned there (my birthplace) a few years back and got slagged off in Welsh when I spoke English in one of the shops to my polyglot friend. It is a stagnant, backwards, change resistant backwater that only in the last 3 years UNBANNED The Life Of Brian from being shown in its one screen magic lantern theatre.
I wouldn't take it personally. They disapprove of EVERYTHING. Described in the Lonely Planet Guide To Britain as "at best, a 45 minute bogstop", the best thing to come out of Aberystwyth is ..... me!'"
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| Quote: PHIPPS "I think from what I know from my time living in South Wales rugby union is the only game that matters down there and that will always be the case.
South Walians had a chance to follow RL when the Celtic Crusaders were in Bridgend. Bridgend was very well situated to attract Rugby supporters from not just the Cardiff Blues catchment areas but also from the Ospreys and Scarlets. Even Newport (home of the Newport Gwent Dragons) is not that far away.
Yet as we know the rugby supporting public of South Wales weren't in the slightest bit interested.
Rugby is almost a religion in South Wales. In days gone by it was said that the only way to get a job out of the mines was to either play rugby or sing in a male voice choir. The Welsh love their rugby union. A campaign in Cardiff to get them to be interested in RL would be about as effective as Sale sharks advertising outside Old Trafford on Grand final day.
There is really only a bottleneck at Cardiff Central when you are trying to leave Cardiff. Lanes are set up to correspond with the particular train services (Rhondda, Cynon Valley, Newport, London, Merthyr, Manchester, Swansea) and BTP usually make you line up outside in your correct row to avoid hundreds of drunken people all piling onto the platforms at once. It's very well managed too although having to line up outside can be annoying if it's raining...and 99% of the time in Wales it IS.
Arriving in Cardiff you generally just exit the station immediately and are just across the road in Greggs buying a steak slice within 5 mins of your train arriving at Caerdydd Canolog (bit of Welsh for you there) so your 'women in catsuits hanging around outside the station' idea is a bit of a waste of time.
Unless they are forced to wear tight fitting white T shirts of course. It WILL be cold and it WILL be raining in Cardiff. As always.'"
Funny that I live in cardiff and it has rained once in the last ten days. Your 'knowledge' gets more tenuous by the second. |
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[b:6jl68bf5][quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]Please tell me what a coach’s job is.[/quote:6jl68bf5]
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[quote="Matt89":6jl68bf5]phipps knows best (everything about rugby league) so don't disagree!!!![/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Huddersfield1895 AKA dally messenger":6jl68bf5]
Having read the article several times I'm still confused[/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]I shall keep posting on this thread and derail it as much as I want to.[/quote:6jl68bf5]
[b:6jl68bf5][quote="PHIPPS":6jl68bf5]Sadly for Wigan as soon as Maguire gets an offer from an NRL club he will be on the plane home before you can say 'meat and potato pie'[/quote:6jl68bf5]
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[quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]I like you Phipps. I like your style.[/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Chorlton RL":6jl68bf5]As far as gauging the potential in the South West, I'd have thought the rumoured Wembley international double-header at the end of the season would be good way to do this. [/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]You really annoy me. Like genital warts, but worse.[/quote:6jl68bf5]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50156.jpg |
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| Quote: jannerboyuk "No comments better illustrate what a made up persona you are. Most people get off at queen street? You're full of it.'"
Indeed they do.
On a Saturday. |
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| Quote: crucrucrusaders "Phipps,
They are rugby fans first and foremost with the international team playing hundreds of miles away along with the local regional team that weekend.
You say that Cardiff Central train leavers do not bottle neck. I move through the same ticket barriers every day along with thousands of others and have been approached by dancing noses handing out tissues, tiger tiger staff handing out leaflets weekly and various other weird and wacky ideas aimed at the 'non bottlenecked' punters.
The picture shows 4 sets of doors, three of which are dead central ahead of the main ticket barriers. There are two to the left but the outer doors are used very little and are sometimes locked. Anyway my point is most come through these doors and if we target this area which people must walk across to get to restaurants, work and various pubs and clubs we will benefit. If anybody that lives and works in Cardiff can verify this to be the case that would be appreciated.
Fans going home will not be as important as they will have already missed a days rugby and if they haven't taken up the offer on day one to take the going home option they probably won't return so it's better to target new fans with a straight head (at the time) and full wallets.
If the RFL move quickly they will be able to appeal to 70,000 plus watching Wales-England in the city this coming Friday. I'd go as far as getting leaflets advertising the event and pointing them to ticketline on Westgate Street that will be selling the tickets.
Come on RFL, do this one thing and you will reap the rewards.'"
good thread this, excellent ideas |
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| Quote: Grendel "Yeah, what a "big" opportunity.
Put some adverts up for MM so that the big-match-occasional urine-heads can see them.
Here's the massive gaping flaw in that genius idea.
Wales is NOT a rugby mad nation. More people watch football (though more people PLAY rugby - at least in the South). Wales IS however, an INTERNATIONAL rugby mad nation. The Welsh Union regions COMBINED get less spectators than Leeds do on their own, but the national team (when it's winning) could sell out 5 times over.
Welsh rugby PLAYERS and serious supporters watch, enjoy and are often quite knowledgeable about League (MOST often supporting Wigan or Warrington). On the Wales v Scotland weekend these potential fans will be playing, or be up in Scotland or watching on their own TVs or in their favourite local pub.
What comes into Cardiff that day, will be the shrieking kok-hungry red spangly stetson wearing twice divorced harpies, orange skinned punch-drunk 'roiders and "fans" who couldn't name a Welsh rugby player outside of the national side, or even a Welsh TEAM below the regions, but irrationally hate League because their dads were annoyed at the diaspora of Welsh Union talent in the '80s.
There are thousands of potential League supporters in Wales. It just ain't THOSE people.
Stick to threads about jerseys Crucru.'"
always thought that was the case. people say RU is the national sport then cardiff city and swansea get these massive crowds which dwarf unions clubs crowds, and neither soccer club is in the Premeir League.
imagine if cardiff manage to get promoted? |
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[b:6jl68bf5][quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]Please tell me what a coach’s job is.[/quote:6jl68bf5]
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[quote="Matt89":6jl68bf5]phipps knows best (everything about rugby league) so don't disagree!!!![/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Huddersfield1895 AKA dally messenger":6jl68bf5]
Having read the article several times I'm still confused[/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]I shall keep posting on this thread and derail it as much as I want to.[/quote:6jl68bf5]
[b:6jl68bf5][quote="PHIPPS":6jl68bf5]Sadly for Wigan as soon as Maguire gets an offer from an NRL club he will be on the plane home before you can say 'meat and potato pie'[/quote:6jl68bf5]
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[quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]I like you Phipps. I like your style.[/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Chorlton RL":6jl68bf5]As far as gauging the potential in the South West, I'd have thought the rumoured Wembley international double-header at the end of the season would be good way to do this. [/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]You really annoy me. Like genital warts, but worse.[/quote:6jl68bf5]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50156.jpg |
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| Quote: Grendel "Yeah, what a "big" opportunity.
Put some adverts up for MM so that the big-match-occasional urine-heads can see them.
Here's the massive gaping flaw in that genius idea.
Wales is NOT a rugby mad nation. More people watch football (though more people PLAY rugby - at least in the South). Wales IS however, an INTERNATIONAL rugby mad nation. The Welsh Union regions COMBINED get less spectators than Leeds do on their own, but the national team (when it's winning) could sell out 5 times over.
Welsh rugby PLAYERS and serious supporters watch, enjoy and are often quite knowledgeable about League (MOST often supporting Wigan or Warrington). On the Wales v Scotland weekend these potential fans will be playing, or be up in Scotland or watching on their own TVs or in their favourite local pub.
What comes into Cardiff that day, will be the shrieking kok-hungry red spangly stetson wearing twice divorced harpies, orange skinned punch-drunk 'roiders and "fans" who couldn't name a Welsh rugby player outside of the national side, or even a Welsh TEAM below the regions, but irrationally hate League because their dads were annoyed at the diaspora of Welsh Union talent in the '80s.
There are thousands of potential League supporters in Wales. It just ain't THOSE people.
Stick to threads about jerseys Crucru.'"
Love it
Now THERES a man who has been in Cardiff on Rugby Day
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There is a tent and I think a banner going up as we speak.
Have the RFL taken this chance and grasped it or is it another WRU initiative?
Whatever it is it is literally on the area in front of the station that is pictured above.
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I've been reliably informed that they are WRU merchandising tents.
Obviously the area is good enough for the WRU to target but the RFL miss out once again.
I really hope something is set up for the Magic Weekend as it is a prime area. That is assuming the WRU actually move their tents, otherwise we're up the creak.
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| Quote: Grendel "What comes into Cardiff that day, will be the shrieking kok-hungry red spangly stetson wearing twice divorced harpies, orange skinned punch-drunk 'roiders '"
Very good, a true heir to Dylan Thomas 
In my experience, that's what comes into Cardiff on any Saturday, not just when there's rugby on. Not forgetting girls from the Merthyr/ elsewhere in the valleys, wearing bikini tops in January and their lagered up male counterparts out for a fight with the lads from the next village. |
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| Quote: JonM "Very good, a true heir to Dylan Thomas ![]()
Much better than swansea or newport though(or plymouth and gillingham in my experience for a pretty random comparison). One thing worth noting is that the goat major, rummer, dempseys, model inn and city arms end always seem pretty chilled although personally the only place i can't stand is the walkabout (although they've shown the grand final on the big screen before now which is pretty good). I've been in the prince of wales plenty of times (always work gatherings for some reason) and actually always enjoyed it.
Dempseys and the queens vaults seem t stick on ss1 as a default and i've caught quite a lot of league in those places, i'm a couple of hundred friendly northerners asking for the league on would get a positive response.
One word of warning if anybody is tempted for late night stuff avoid metros - it stinks ever since the smoking ban, worse than anywhere else.
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[b:6jl68bf5][quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]Please tell me what a coach’s job is.[/quote:6jl68bf5]
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[quote="Matt89":6jl68bf5]phipps knows best (everything about rugby league) so don't disagree!!!![/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Huddersfield1895 AKA dally messenger":6jl68bf5]
Having read the article several times I'm still confused[/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]I shall keep posting on this thread and derail it as much as I want to.[/quote:6jl68bf5]
[b:6jl68bf5][quote="PHIPPS":6jl68bf5]Sadly for Wigan as soon as Maguire gets an offer from an NRL club he will be on the plane home before you can say 'meat and potato pie'[/quote:6jl68bf5]
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[quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]I like you Phipps. I like your style.[/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Chorlton RL":6jl68bf5]As far as gauging the potential in the South West, I'd have thought the rumoured Wembley international double-header at the end of the season would be good way to do this. [/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]You really annoy me. Like genital warts, but worse.[/quote:6jl68bf5]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50156.jpg |
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| Quote: crucrucrusaders "I've been reliably informed that they are WRU merchandising tents.
Obviously the area is good enough for the WRU to target but the RFL miss out once again.
I really hope something is set up for the Magic Weekend as it is a prime area. That is assuming the WRU actually move their tents, otherwise we're up the creak.'"
It isnt crucrucrucrucrucru etcetcetc
We have done this to death.
Move on for gods sake!
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| Quote: Grendel "And Vikingsmurf, I hear you about Aberystwyth. I returned there (my birthplace) a few years back and got slagged off in Welsh when I spoke English in one of the shops to my polyglot friend. It is a stagnant, backwards, change resistant backwater that only in the last 3 years UNBANNED The Life Of Brian from being shown in its one screen magic lantern theatre.
I wouldn't take it personally. They disapprove of EVERYTHING. Described in the Lonely Planet Guide To Britain as "at best, a 45 minute bogstop", the best thing to come out of Aberystwyth is ..... me!'"
well its nice to have backup  lmao, I have enjoyed that theatre many times over the years.
and had far more experience than i would like of the completely insane inhabitants of that region  |
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