You've not read much Barry_McKenzie or Damo then.

Thornley is possibly only the 3rd best young centre coming through at Wigan also, he was seen as a potential GB player but his development has stalled somewhat.

I'm not sure, they offered big money to our ex-CEO Mick Hogan a few weeks ago which lead him to quit Wigan half way through this season. Ian Lenegan even mentioned the money was his main reason for departing half way through this campaign.

To be honest Sale have been after Thornley since he first starting playing for our academy two or three years ago.

You serious?

Dead set

Hoffman Lima and Finch as signings?

I reckon this will signal the start of a new dawn of Wigan dominance if they gel into the squad as well as I think they will.

Barry,go away you yawnion loving fool.

I wouldn't say those 3 will signal dominance but we will certainly improve.

Allow me to clarify seems as people insist on putting a magnifying glass over the comings and goings at Wigan.

This season only Mark Riddell, Amos Roberts and Cameron Phelps count on the quota. Thomas Leuluai and Harrison Hansen have never counted on any quota because they were here from an early age (Hansen was here from 18, Leuluai at Harlequins whilst 20).

George Carmont, Pat Richards, Feka Paleaasina and Phil Bailey would have counted on the Non-Federation trained limit, but a number of Clubs in the last few months of 2008 used the we do not have enough overseas slots available reason for not renewing certain players contracts and at least one legal case was threatened based upon constraint of a player's ability to earn a living.

To avoid the delays of an expensive potential legal challenge and to be scrupulously fair to players, it was decided by the ESL/RFL -with the unanimous votes of the 12 Super League clubs - to extend Federation Trained status to any players who had committed their future to Super League before the new Regulations were implemented. Since 50% of such current players are 30+ and unlikely to play many further years in Super League, the majority of these exemptions will work their way out quickly.

George Carmont, Pat Richards and Feka Paleaasina therefore become Federation Trained immediately and Phil Bailey at the end of 2009. Unlike most other clubs, Wigan has 3 out of 4 re-categorised Non-Federation players of a young age.

Most of the above has come from Ian Lenagan. So don't doubt the source. I also quote something he posted on our forum a couple of years agoWigan would have preferred not to grant the new re-categorisations because we had fully planned for them better than many other clubs. However, we voted for them for fairness to players and as the only sure way to ensure that the new Regulations would be implemented, albeit slightly slower'"

Are there any good young players at Sale? Have you watched Orrell recently? Deary me they have sld down to an awful level of rugby.

I wasn't having a go, I was just merely pointing out that Wigan fans are using the "Four in, three out" statement when realistically they could have 'four in, four out'.

At the end of the day, the loopholes are being used but it's high time that a few of the team in SL stop exploiting these loopholes and start getting towards bringing through an entire English squad bar one or two Aussies.

2 stand off's together sounds good and a scrum half at hooker even better...

Tomkins can play 7, as can Finch.

And Leuluai was New Zealands hooker when they won the World Cup.

Here's an idea Wigan, don't spend 400k+ on the three new signings and you could have kept one of the best young centre prospects in the game. No doubt come Oct/Nov we will be moaning about the lack of decent talent in the England back line and wondering why we are years behind NZ and Oz!

They've paid good money for Mick Hogan because they think that he might be the man to get their finances on the move again. Their move to Edgeley Park has not been a good one. The place is falling apart and their gates getting lower. If you look at the players they've got rid of in the past 2 years and what they have replaced them with it's similar to the way Bradford have been going.

SHOCK: Another ignorant, clueless, irritating buffoon.