Wigan are a category B club. Just saying.

Its all about raising standards, there are a few championship clubs that could get to Category A standards (good stadia, good crowds, good academy product, good results) and would be promoted by license whilst a Category B club (bad, stadia, bad crowds, bad academy product, poor results) would be relegated.

Surely the original framing of the future was to have around 12 Category A clubs, can you imagine if those had a really great acadamy product, we could then reduce the overseas quota and get more player participtation down stream to the grass roots.

It encourages clubs to improve and get investment. Say Bradford for example. If they got the new ground and got a new owner and won the Championship, they'd become a category A club. They'd have good crowds etc. Wakefield will not get a category A licence unless they improve the ground, do better on the field and improve as a club. It'll be interesting to see what the criteria are, hopefully it will incorporate facilities, finances and on field performance and potentially even strategic importance. That is where the controversy often comes into it.

But looking at the proposals, promotion and relegation will exist until there are sufficient category A clubs to fill the 12 spaces. If we have 12 genuinely category A sides then the competition will have gained about 7 from what it has now, which would indicate great progress. It also talks of room to expand to 14 if there are enough A clubs. It all sounds sensible to me and if someone can get investment, good facilities and win the second tier, they're going to have great leverage to get into the top tier, so the arguement that there is nothing to play for is never there. Realistically there might be some minnows that won't have a chance, but they in reality don't have a chance now, they just don't have to face up to that on a daily basis so continuing on is seen as being better.

Wakefield and Cas will be dusting off those artists impressions and throwing the CEO a hiviz and shovel for the photos

Dont worry your retractable roofed Odsal Superdome will get you in!

If they take reassessing the bottom grade clubs licence yearly seriously and the Championship Winner gets a good points score for actually winning something it could just work, but devil is in the detail and they can twist the criteria.

The likes of Wigan and Saints actually have no intention of growing the game but rather keep the power that they have. They are part of the problem. Heathrington as well.

That's one big issue, then there's Hull and Wire who throw money round and don't get anywhere. Cas, Wakefield and Salford live hand to mouth off the SKY money. Hudds can't pay people to go. Rovers are probably at their peak for crowds. Quite a few clubs need a reboot and hopefully licences help turn the tide.

Quote: UllFC "Wakefield and Cas will be dusting off those artists impressions and throwing the CEO a hiviz and shovel for the photos'" Please try and keep up, from the end of this season the old East Stand demolished and new footings laid, for the new Stand, ongoing work in the North Stand, a new hybrid pitch is now growing well, and other upgrades including the new floodlights. https://www.facebook.com/groups/9684180 ... &ref=share https://www.facebook.com/17494788588615 ... pF6XnCVal/

Quote: UllFC "Wakefield and Cas will be dusting off those artists impressions and throwing the CEO a hiviz and shovel for the photos'" Please try and keep up, from the end of this season the old East Stand demolished and new footings laid, for the new Stand, ongoing work in the North Stand, a new hybrid pitch is now growing well, and other upgrades including the new floodlights. https://www.facebook.com/groups/9684180 ... &ref=share https://www.facebook.com/17494788588615 ... pF6XnCVal/

That's simply not true. McManus has often spoken about how turkeys shouldn't be voting for Christmas, most recently on the decisions around Toulouse. Obviously McManus is trying to keep Saints as the best club in RL, but you want your club Directors doing that surely? He's not doing it by weakening the other clubs.

Ive never liked no P + R and wont like it again. Just doesnt do it for me, but if this comes in could be the final nail in the coffin for me with this sport.

The product is poor as it is without taking less interest away.

Saints will be A star. They’ll bring out a special category for em. You’ll win the grading as well .

Not sure I follow the drop in interest with P+R. The devil is in the detail but if (no offence to anyone named or not named) they decide Huddersfield, Salford, Castleford, Hull KR, Wakefield and Toulouse are all Category B and could be relegated on a bad season

And

Leigh, Featherstone, Halifax and York were all Category B and could be promoted on a good season. That still gives plenty to play for.

The rest of us need to work to improve and get a Category rating to be in contention.

The problems will arise if Category A ratings are handed out across super league making it a closed shop and any bump in popularity and money for the game is kept in super league.

Understand your view but the current setup doesn't work either, the promoted team finds out they have been promoted far too late and stands little chance of staying up. Leigh have spent heavily but can't fully plan next year until Monday, and always a risk there's a bout of Covid in the camp, injuries, freak weather etc and they unexpectedly lose the final.

Whatever system we are using the Championship needs to be first past the post for the champions, to give them more time to plan and the final doesnt exactly set attendance records anyway.