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Quote: Call Me God "
I hope nobody goes up, because with Bradford in this mix next year, the Championship will AGAIN be more exciting than the stupor League.....and Toronto will have to travel each week........'"

Widnes and/or Salford will be relegated IMO

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[img:2penstlp]http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/5994/saints7sk.gif[/img:2penstlp] "...the biggest boor, the most opinionated pompous bigot that frequents these boards and he is NOT to be taken at all seriously. ":187.jpg



Quote: Nothus "Did you look at the league table before you posted this? Out of the top 6, only Halifax have a worse points difference than Leigh. Fev are 60+ points better off and London a whopping 140!'"


I did. But if Leigh win their last 3 games by 30 point differences, which is entirely feasible given they're playing three semi-pro teams at the bottom of the table, then their points difference changes dramatically. And as their PD rises, the PD of any club above them which loses a game will be heading down at the same time.

TBH, unless Toronto give out a massive beating to Fev, then Fev should be safe, as they would add to their PD if they won their other 2 games, and they're the only ones likely to be on the same number of league points as Leigh. So I don't think PD will come into the mix, really.


Every team in that top 6 except Leigh still has their own destiny in their hands. Leigh need results to go a certain way eve if they win all their remaining 3 fixtures. Everyone else can guarantee their place by winning their matches. Certainly if those clubs can't sell tickets off the back of that, then they should have a word with themselves.

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There are three key games between London & Fax, Fax & TO and Fev & London before the end of the season. Making some (possibly rash) assumptions about the other games (the top 6 teams beat bottom 6 opponents when they play them, and Toronto beat Fev), then there are 8 possible scenarios based on the outcome of these (with another assumption that there isn't a draw involved in these three games).

- TO will make the top 4.
- Fax would miss out on the top 4 if they lose both games.
- Fev need to beat London but will still be battling with Leigh on points difference unless Fax lose both games.
- London need to beat both Fax and Fev to be in the top 4.
- Leigh will be in the top 4 or possibly battling with Fev on points difference, unless Fax beat TO, London beat Fax and London beat Fev (leaves Fax, London and TO all on 33 points and Leigh miss out).

Other than probably unlikely wins for Dewsbury, Sheffield, Swinton or Rochdale, what could possibly change this would be Barrow beating either TO or London at home or Fev managing to beat Toronto (if they rest players).

London vs Fax first up this weekend, and Sky are (IMO) missing a trick by not televising these games.

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Featherstone and Toulouse have both won by massive margins today, vastly improving their points difference, should it come down to that.

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Featherstone v London and Halifax v Toulouse next week, as well as potentially Toronto v Featherstone the week after are massively important games.

Updated table

Toronto 39 +468
Toulouse 31 +439
Featherstone 30 +388
London 29 +411
Halifax 29 +190
Leigh 28 +291

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: Roy Haggerty "
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London v Halifax (W)
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On the other hand, Halifax play London at London, and as London will be desperate next week, there could be a loss there. That would be great news for Leigh fans, as it would almost certainly put Halifax out of the picture, without putting London in it, with both finishing on 31 points, and Leigh on 4th without needing to rely on points difference.
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Other than you were wrong about the result, how has London winning "not put them in the picture"?
London win their last 2 games and they are in.......the 4th placed side will come from three teams, Fev, Fax and Leigh.....and my money is on Halifax!

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[quote="-VIKINGMAN-"]TBF he's a good lad Snowy. A wind up merchant but a good lad. :lol:[/quote] [quote="-VIKINGMAN-"]That sig snowy is Ssooooooooooo old !!![/quote] OOpps - nowt changes !! [b]Widnes 8 Leigh 10 LOL!!! Leigh 23 Widnes 16 LOL!! Leigh 30 Widnes 16 LOL!! Widnes 18 Leigh 38 Oh Dear !! Leigh 54 Widnes 16 FFS!!! Leigh 50 Widnes 18 We gave them 3 tries !!! Widnes 18 Leigh 24 Still no points in the 2nd half!! Good luck Widnes. See you in 2015 !![/b]:8043.jpg



Quote: Call Me God "Other than you were wrong about the result, how has London winning "not put them in the picture"?
London win their last 2 games and they are in.......the 4th placed side will come from three teams, Fev, Fax and Leigh.....and my money is on Halifax!'"


The big game for Leigh is the Toulouse one. If they beat Halifax, Leigh are guaranteed top 4.

If London beat Fev, the likleyhood is that they will finish 3rd with Fax and fev missing out (unless something very strange happens at Toronto)

If Fev beat London, doesnt matter as Leigh will be in 4th place with one round to go anyway.

Both of these games are Huge.

Irrespective, Leigh will need to pile on the points.

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How are 6th placed Leigh guaranteed top 4 if one of Toulouse’s fixtures go in their favour?

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Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "How are 6th placed Leigh guaranteed top 4 if one of Toulouse’s fixtures go in their favour?'"


Not guaranteed of course, but on the assumption Leigh win both theirs and end up on 32

Toulouse beat Fax, mean's Fax can only get 31

Fev beat London, means London can only get 31

London beat Fev, the assumption is that Fev lose in Toronto Fev end up on 30

Like I say no guarantees, but far more interesting than SL at this stage of the season - in fact is there even a thread about who will end up bottom 4 of SL

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Quote: ColD "Not guaranteed of course, but on the assumption Leigh win both theirs and end up on 32

Toulouse beat Fax, mean's Fax can only get 31

Fev beat London, means London can only get 31

London beat Fev, the assumption is that Fev lose in Toronto Fev end up on 30

Like I say no guarantees, but far more interesting than SL at this stage of the season - in fact is there even a thread about who will end up bottom 4 of SL'"


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Can see London and Leigh missing out...
Toronto 43 pts
TO 33
Fax 33
Fev 32
Leigh 32
London 31

Toronto go up, Widnes come down.

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Quote: ColD "
Like I say no guarantees, but far more interesting than SL at this stage of the season - in fact is there even a thread about who will end up bottom 4 of SL'"


Yep, it's 7 pages long: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=616918
Quote: ColD "
Like I say no guarantees, but far more interesting than SL at this stage of the season - in fact is there even a thread about who will end up bottom 4 of SL'"


Yep, it's 7 pages long: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=616918


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Quote: Leigh_Manning "No, they are identical.
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For heaven's sake, they are not identical questions.

Just think about it for a second, will you?

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He's right, you know. They aren't identical.

For example - I want Leigh to get promoted. (heck, I want them to somehow get into the top 4 first!) But I don't think they will get promoted. (or even into the top 4! icon_sad.gif )

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