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| When Celtic were name and shamed few years ago, the Celtic fans protested against the club and demanded change.
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| Leigh_Manning wrote.."
I was a shop steward for 25 years and if it was not for unions all workers would still be going to work with a flat cap and string tied round their coats no holidays and no pay rises and working 60 hrs a week"
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I was a shop steward for 25 years and if it was not for unions all workers would still be going to work with a flat cap and string tied round their coats no holidays and no pay rises and working 60 hrs a week "totally untrue, but it is your opinion.'"
I worked 35 years in engineering, no union to represent us. However, every pay rise, change in working conditions etc. came about only after the unions negotiated the deal for it's own members elsewhere. We did become unionized eventually and things improved even more. The point is non-unionized places benefited from the unions too but this may seem to some, that we didn't need unions, but the working man / woman certainly did no matter where they worked.
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| Quote: Leigh_Manning "said a pensioner socialist, UNIONS do NOTHING other than collect a fee and stand in the way of progress. Ask yourself, why is UNISON based in BRAND NEW offices near Euston, for the "good of the workers", why did Scargill kill the mining industry, Bob Crow ruined the Railways... the list is endless (comrade)'"
it was that cow thatcher that killed off the mining industry
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| Didn't some clubs get named earlier in the year for the same thing?
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| Quote: Lebron James "Utterly shambolic and embarassing
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I don`t seem to recall you posting such strong comments when St Helens were outed for the exact same thing around 3 or 4 months ago?
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| Quote: fbstackafelt "it was that cow thatcher that killed off the mining industry'"
dated old socialist, that is why RL is dying, so are the old fans.
Scargill and Kinnock killed mining, not Baroness Thatcher, you know, the one who was PM for years.
She saved the Falklands
Blair destroyed Iraq & Afghanistan
Brown sold the gold at a record low
Brown never met a US President
so think on, and be greatful for the years of Conservatism that put the money in the bank before Labour squandered it
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| Labour closed down more pits than the Tories ever did.
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Warrington Wolfs - 0
Wakefield Trinity - 0
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[quote="Budgiezilla":3w2ur1db]Surely it can only be a player from Catalans. Probably the best RL side I have ever witnessed in this season's comp.[/quote:3w2ur1db]: |
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| Wakefield have also been caught. Over £12k owed to staff
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| Quote: Lebron James "Wakefield have also been caught. Over £12k owed to staff
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Widnes also.
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| Quote: Lebron James "Wakefield have also been caught. Over £12k owed to staff
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King James'"
Surprised It took you so long to suss it out . Whilst not knowing the background to this, I suspect Michael Carter will rectify it pretty quickly if it is correct, as I suspect the other clubs will do
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| Quote: The Ghost of '99 "I'd be wary of reading much into this without the detail. It's highly unlikely these clubs will have been paying below minimum wage in terms of the hourly pay. Most companies are on top of that.
It's more likely to do with rounding clocking in/out times and the joke of a change in interpretation of what constitutes a uniform (so what they said was ok last year, this year isn't but they never advised anyone of the change).
The minimum wage is probably too low in my view but the way HMRC have policed it this last 12 months has the clear hallmark of a money making exercise.'"
Absolutely correct - whilst it's easy to pick from the list and make an assumption, hardly any of those named and shamed will be based on a straightforward failure to pay the NMW; it's actually quite easy to fall foul of it now, since HMRC have either changed their guidance, or just not issued any, on some issues around rounding etc. Just look at the mess they've created in the care industry around night shifts.
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| Quote: bren2k "Absolutely correct - whilst it's easy to pick from the list and make an assumption, hardly any of those named and shamed will be based on a straightforward failure to pay the NMW; it's actually quite easy to fall foul of it now, since HMRC have either changed their guidance, or just not issued any, on some issues around rounding etc. Just look at the mess they've created in the care industry around night shifts.'"
Don't get me started on HMRC, especially the "magic" of IR35 interpretation, if it's just you as an individual, you get pinned, if it's the BBC they will "negotiate a settlement"!
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| Quote: Leigh_Manning "Don't get me started on HMRC, especially the "magic" of IR35 interpretation, if it's just you as an individual, you get pinned, if it's the BBC they will "negotiate a settlement"!'"
Spoken like any proud contractor ! ![ROCKS k020.gif](images/smilies//k020.gif)
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| Quote: Lebron James "Wakefield have also been caught. Over £12k owed to staff
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King James'"
Michael carter has confirmed that in Wakey case it relates to payments to academy players for travelling time a rule we were unaware of and goes back 3 years. All have been paid up and we have been heavily fined. Wasn’t down to MC but as the employer the buck stops with him
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| I thought that Wakefield were the best run side in the league?
Clearly not.
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