TBF regarding the Roby/Peacock one. I know Hemmings went on about it like Peacock had Roby in a Indian death lock but in reality it was a light hold of the wrist and Roby wasn't making any attempt to get up with any part of his body. The idea that Roby couldn't manage to stand up is far fetched.

Saints did get hammered with penalties in the final 20 minutes of the first half but in all honestly they brought them on themselves, their discipline and overall play in that period of the game just after the sending off was pretty poor and lathegic.

Glad we agree

I will end my night here on a positive note, congrats to the Leeds fans, they sounded great, chanting all night and made it sound a cracking atmosphere!

Could Leeds have done more at 12-2 up?

That's the downside of kicking for goal continually, instead of backing yourself at least once

There needs to be some consistency in what the ref can go to the video screen for. It seemed Silverwood missed the shoulder and got told by the video ref the same as the two ricochet decisions got decided by the video ref. The same time it took to make them decisions by the video ref and also setting the scrum is about the same that got taken to set up the scrum for when the ball got punched out of Sutcliffe's hands. Why can the video ref be used for some and not for others? As long as it isnt taking too long and the correct decision is reached(obviously not the case with the last scrum) then not too many people will be bothered by a slight delay.

I'm unsure about the Hohaia on Sutcliffe incident.

I don't think Hohaia has 'stripped' the ball as he is making a tackle. He isn't involved and then strips the ball out. Surely the responsibility should be on Sutcliffe to have a good grip on the ball = knock on.

I wish we would get rid of the ball steal. I think it would be amazing to see how many attackers would keep hold of the ball in all of these situations.

I do think it will lead to fewer errors and less controversy. As you say the stealing rule is a complete lottery and it is purely a guess for the ref if the ball comes out with 3 tacklers in there. Which isn't great.

In terms of the incident, the ref looks to have just called a loose carry as the ball has come out on the impact of the tackle. Although I don't know how you can say Hohaia has knocked on when he was never in possession of the ball.

I thought Hohaia deliberately slapped the ball out rather than it being a tackle impact. He had every right to but if you play for it and it goes forward then surely it's a knock on, loose carry or not.

Of course you can knock on when not in possession of the ball, if you smack the ball out of an opponents grip towards their line then it's a knock on. We see this pretty much every game. In this case, Hohaia seemed to knock it towards the Sts line so it should have been play on.

Silverwood was atrocious at judging strip/knock on. No consistency in it at all what in one tackle was a strip was a knock on in another. Really poor.

His judgement of what was played at from a kick was also different to anything i have seen. The LMS one was an absolute joke, LMS even gave himself up desperately trying to keep the ball in play.

I dont think he let either team 'get away with murder' or gave one half to one and one to the other, I just thought he was really really poor.

Does RL actually need a forward pass/knock on rule?
I think there are a lot of positives in allowing players to pass in any direction, in which case the knock on can no longer happen as it's just an unintentional forward pass, normally to yourself. You would still retain the offside rule as for kicks so you couldn't have NFL style quarterbacks launching the ball 50 metres down the field. Well you could but the winger/wide receiver would need to be damn quick to catch the ball from a starting position behind the passer. Some positivesNo more controversies about whether a knock on went forward or not
Ditto for passes
No more requirement to look at the 'angle of the hands' for passes
Noi more arguments about strips/knock ons
Less interference at PTBs as less to gain for the defender
Consistency for VR decisions, everthing can be reviewed
When the referee doesn't know how the ball came out in the tackle he can wave play on rather than guess how to restart
More attacking options at the expense of having to secure the ball better
A more entertaining game, particuarly in difficult conditions
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99.9% of knock ons are unintentional and no advantage is gained so why do we have to give the opposition free ball instead of making them work for it. Can you imagine in football if a free kick was awarded to the opposition when a player failed to trap the ball correctly or the keeper dropped a cross. Yet this is what we do when a fullback fails to catch a kick downfield cleanly when the nearest opposition player is 30 metres away, even if the ball clearly goes backwards to everybody except the referee.

Although I doubt this rule would ever be changed for full RL, perhaps it could be incorporated in a 9s style tournament similar to crickets 20/20.