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| Quote: newsboy "Quote: newsboy "It is a very different scenario from not letting a club in , and kicking a club out , from a legal point of view it is highly unlikely any club not in SL could win a case for admission , but much more likely an existing SL club clould win a case if removed'"
Why would a club being 'kicked out' take legal action? Don't laugh, but the RFL insist that the criteria on which the licences applications will be judged is transparent and will be applied to all clubs fairly. Remember, the clubs themselves were consulted on the criteria and agreed the system. If the same sytem when applied last time was okay because it kept certain clubs in, why would it be so wrong as to need those same clubs to resort to legal action when the same system now kicks one of them out? If it was fair and just when it kept Halifax, Leigh and Widnes out, it will surely be just as fair when it lets one of them in (not Leigh) and removes at least one existing club.'"'" ]Just my opinion , the RFL are ' gutless ' they will avoid conflict with an existing SL club at all cost , to be the person resonsible for dropping a club down and the potential results of that [ extinction ] is not where they are at
I actually hope they dont drop anybody down , because they will IMO over compensate that club to the detriment of the Championships
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| Quote: madtigerman "Should be the celtic wrexham crusaders. But it is looking like wakey
i hope halifax come up.'"
not a chance its got widnes wrote all over it i would like fax or fev but its going to be widnes although it should be who wins the league but thats my opinion
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| Quote: hullkrforever "not a chance its got widnes wrote all over it i would like fax or fev but its going to be widnes although it should be who wins the league but thats my opinion'"
When ?
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| I think we think that Wakefield are gonna lose there licences.
She's going down I think.
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| Quote: Conorgiantsfan "I think we think that Wakefield are gonna lose there licences.
She's going down I think.'"
Which other ones are they losing ?
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| Quote: Starbug "Which other ones are they losing ?'"
There bar licence. Cats club can't continue without Super League
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| It's sad that any club has to go and maybe the rfl has finally seen sense and will actually expand the league to 15 or even 16 clubs, although when has the RFL ever seen sense.
Our pool of players for internationals is small, as of course we only have 14 teams to select from and even then half the players are foreign, but another two teams would eventually see an increase in Superleague standard players.
But if anyone is given the boot then I guess it will be Wakey.
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| Quote: Starbug "When ?'"
When ever who cares it should be the league winners gf winners what ever no more no less it shouldn't matter how good your ground is etc it should be what You field and if they field a good team they stay up if not backdown just like the prem league is it's worked for over a 100 years promotion relagation so why stop it now
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| I think there are a few twists and turns yet. Wakefield are down but not completely out. Promises have been made but there are a few who have yet to deliver who can consider themselves lucky in the recent past.And then there's the fact that nobody knows yet how many are coming up from the championship. There is one guaranteed, but not one exclusively. If it were up to me, I'd kick out two. And the two I would kick out do not necessarily include the current favourite Wakefield.
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| widnes for wakey
the franchise decisions are so much easier this time
widnes are the standout inclusion and wakey the exclusion
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| I'm not sure anyone deserves to be kicked out. They are all solvent (well Crusaders just), they are all drawing reasonable crowds (leaving protected species Quins aside) and they are competitive. What's the problem?
If they want to bring in another team they should only do it when the SL is ready to expand, the game can sustain it and the admitted team is shown to add to TV money or add something new to the comp.
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| SL will not expand as the clubs have voted (including Cas, Wakey and Salford) to keep the numbers at 14. Cynics say that is the clubs voting for their own self-interest making sure that they keep more of the SKY money to themselves, others will say it keep the competition at a higher standard - quality not quantity. I've not noticed a higher standard competition if the yard-stick to measure it by is international success. We are as far behind the Aussies and New Zealand as ever. Hullkr Forever is right - promotion and relegation on merit is the fairest way, but as the RFL will never allow London, Catalans or Crusaders to leave the top flight, this will never come about. If one of those three finished bottom, either no-one would get promoted or a team above them would go down. Common sense and the integrity of the competition sacrificed on the altar of 'expansion at all costs!'
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| One day, the penny will drop that the ONLY thing that matters is the game on the field and everything else is secondary.
FWIW NO current SL club should be "demoted" in this round and I doubt if they will.
The RFL/SL shot themselves in the foot by saying a "championship" club would be given a franchise in this next round.
There is not one club in the championship at present who are anywhere near good enough for SL. If there were, the club would have all the right "infrastucture" in place and would be ready with a team that would make a fist of it.
Sadly there is not one team who has done that, although loads of "ifs", "buts" and "deserveds" have been forthcoming without any actual factual positive substance supporting the statements/comments, just a load of supposition.
However this being RL, it's odds on that a crazy decision will again be made and a little further down the line all the old arguments/discussions will appear AGAIN!!!
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| its a two horse race between cas and wakefield,at this moment in time had say we "cas" are a bit infront of wakey in most aspects,better squad,closer to getting a new ground, financially secure,better youth system and slightly better attendences.
but its a long time until the decision is made and the final say will all come down to the two clubs progress regards stadia at the time of franchise.
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| Quote: Disney cat "I think we all know it's going to be us or Cas but then again I think we all know it should be Celtic-Wrexham-Crusaders or London- Broncos-Harlequins
I dont see how. Widnes have a top class stadium, fanbase and business plan. Wakey have none of these and would only have themselves to blame. The RFL pushing franchises has led to a much stronger set of elite clubs than we would otherwise have had.
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