Instead of trying to emulate your game we may try something that will actually change the balance of power

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Maybe genetic modifications, as a last hope

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It will be a poorer competition if your 2nd / 3rd string players go home.

Havent you seen the new sky sl intro? those iron men will rip the ockers to bits

Quote ="Widnes 'till i die"It shouldnt be a problem, i've heard loads of quality players are being produced in Wales and London, in a couple of years SL is going to be chock-a-block with players from expansion areas '" www.thisischeshire.co.uk/sport/4 ... s_sign_up/ www.code13rugbyleague.com/2011/0 ... h-hull-fc/ news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 978897.stm news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 747078.stm www.rugbyleaguetoday.co.uk/crusa ... s-on-loan/

Quote ="Widnes 'till i die"It shouldnt be a problem, i've heard loads of quality players are being produced in Wales and London, in a couple of years SL is going to be chock-a-block with players from expansion areas '" www.thisischeshire.co.uk/sport/4 ... s_sign_up/ www.code13rugbyleague.com/2011/0 ... h-hull-fc/ news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 978897.stm news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 747078.stm www.rugbyleaguetoday.co.uk/crusa ... s-on-loan/

with all due respect good sir, whilst i can see what your getting at. i dont see what how those links prove the 'Production of quality players in expansion areas'
the two welsh lads were playing it at school, so its not like they wouldnt have were it not for the influence of the crusaders. elima is french and france is not an expansion area, youve had your own league for donkeys years.
the scottish lad was playing for an amateur team and is scotland really an expansion area at the moment? the two welsh lads and the scotish lad havent really been 'produced' by anyone, they decided to take up the game in the absence of a pro or semi pro rugby league set up in their area, or regardless of the presence of one. and these are places that have had a amateur rugby league presence for years.
with regards to rinaldi, see points about elima above.
and rhys wlliams was 'produced' by the Scarlets, a rugby union team.
i fail to see the point of these links.

They are all players at M62 clubs, and do not come from the M62 corrider, hence they are players from expansion areas

my point being that france is not an expansion area really. and with regards the others, they were not 'produced' because of any meaningful semi pro or pro rugby league presence in their areas, but in some cases because of existing amateur set ups that havent just been magically paracuted in recently and churned them out.

In two years will sl be ready to lose 50 overseas players?

No.

why would that happen? forgive my ignorence. really im interested, maybe i missed some news?

The NRL is looking to expand in two years, it will have more money due to the new tv deal which will raise the cap.

If the exchange rate stays the same the only ozzies left in sl will be poor ones or ones to lazy for pre season.

This could be the making of RL in this country, imo. The emphasis will now be firmly on producing our own youngsters and they will be given the opportunity to play. This is both a challenge and an opportunity. Those clubs which fail to act now will fail. That will be no-one else’s fault but their own.

I firmly believe that there is a lot of latent talent out there, which often gets lost to the sport. It is probable that the current structure of the game will need to change though.

TBH Parra I would prefer them to go to the NRL rather than the dark side.
For me it can only be a plus if it helps to bring on young English talent so eventually we can compete with the Aussies/Kiwis at a decent level.

HKR are screwed then.

Sorry but the depth in talent ( if you believe the exconns ) is so deep they wont want any of the has beens in ESL, NPS then Rangi is staying at CAS

There's a fair few who could go back, they'll get a few more Brits as well.

Maybe it's the chip on your shoulder, your flat cap being pulled down to far, your pigeons shi77ing on your computer screen or your Whippet barking to loudly.....


London, an expannsion area, has a production line that is starting to cough up international players at all stages, from u16 through to University and SL level. For years, flatearthers like you have banged on about it being a waste of time and effort.....yet only last year a lad from gravesend scored 4 tries for England.....another lad was snapped up by the most succesfull club in SL history.....and the London Franchise is no longer relient on overseas talent.

What's wrong....not quick enough for you? It takes time.....the mothers in London object to being told to give birth to 18 stone fully trained RL players......they still prefer babies that can be taught the game as they grow



Wales will go the same way if given time.........France is starting to get its act together, but I would suggest that if you want to bang on about the over reliance on overseas talent in the ESL you look along the M62 for some better targets......like Hull KA, Salford or Wakefield for starters.....and let's not forget Widnes weren't scared of using the odd overseas players when you were at the top table.....


Bottom line...if the NRL gets what it deserves from TV, then yes, they will send less players over here, but that's not a bad thing...in the long term (if you can be bothered waiting) as it will be more than an RFL edict that makes teams produce and play their own.

Ok sorry i so wish people understood sarcasm

gutterfax. i hope those smiles denote a tongue in cheek tone, or i would have to open a can of whoop ass on ya!


im not decrying expansion at all, i was merely stating that the links provided in no way back up the point being made.
and france is simply not an 'expansion' area. pro rugby league didnt just appear recently in france.
and why are you quoting me then going of on a rant about other peoples points? at least make it clear who your repsonding to please.
its not my fault someone else made a point you didnt like

ima cry now.

and another thing, i never mentioned london, or even attempted in any way to slag of expansion. or made any mention of overseas players being a bad thing.
so i dont know why any of that was aimed at me.

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Is that some form of Northen Delicacy





there is no absolute up and down in the universe


i believe its a delicacy beloved of our American cousins.
although sadly you can all to often see cans of whoop ass being opened on people in northern town centres on saturday nights

I would suggest "any" town centre....not just northern ones

and not just Saturday nights either

some thoughts of St Helens fans on just one of the quality players comming off the production line in London......





.......given the kid was 9yrs old when London Joined SL....not bad.
Then you have the lad who scored 4 tries in a game for England RL in 2010......another London product. Then if you take the lads that are representing England at age group level and university level I think you are exposed for what you are.......bitter that you have to wait another year for SL rugby.



By the way....I have no issues with spelling mistakes, but sort your user name out

'til not 'till.....unless you are a farmer from Widnes

So it could hurt "some clubs", but overall, the long term prospect is a good thing for British RL?

That 29 million sports England provided the RFL with, is that only to be used on junior development or can the RFL spend it any way they choose?

They can spend it pretty much as they want, but they will have to show an ROI in the eyes of sport england if they want any more. Stuff like getting schools playing the game etc will be key to being seen to do the right thing. Development outside of SL.....as the SL clubs have their own hand outs from uncle rupert

ahhh, ok.

best be spending big on junior development to get some cash again.