Get on the phone to S15, they could do with your genius lol.

Some mitigating factors also for sl's drop
Top spot is wasted on hudds. Normally sitting top of the league would see a significant crowd boost for most clubs
Hull have been poor for couple of years and crowds have responded, hopefully the wembley trip will boost interest in them for next season
Hull KR have had a decreased capacity with the building of the north stand
Salford and Bradford nearly ceased trading and the bad stench from financial failure will have put plenty off
All comps can come up with reasons for drops in the last couple of years.

SL does need to find some new ways to reinvigorate the comp and I guess thy ate trying with the revamped future format.

They haven't come close to selling out the available seats this season have they? I thought the capacity while work was carried out was 9,000....Leeds is their biggest gate so far this year at 8,122 and they are averaging about 7,300 this year, so the building of a stand behind one set of posts isn't the reason for a slight drop in attendances at Hull KR, it's more about performances on the park for them.
Still, after missing finals footie last year, I reckon they will be playing at least one extra game at the end of the season this year...they were robbed against the Pies, but should get 2 more wins to cement finals footie.

As for Marketing Super Rugby? They are beyond help and I prefer to help so called smaller sports who pay as well, but don't come with the inflated ego and blinkered opinions that Rugby Unions seem to have. 10,850 was the Hurricanes average this year...down from 14,318 last year and down from 23,200 in 2006! Try telling them that they've got a problem and they just won't listen!

Yes but that capacity includes the sth stand of around 1200 which is a major turn off factor in going for most fans. It's been mentioned by many on the rovers forum that they haven't taken the wife and kids this year due to the north stand not being available. RM stand is pretty much season ticket sold out and the lack of a seating option for pay at the gate puts many off going.

When you take off the sth stand you can see we are pretty much selling out the remaining decent viewing areas. The north stand will make a 500+ avg difference at least, encourage more away fans to visit and hopefully encourage more families.

Agreed though our improved performances and next years decent signings should also help.

The state of the economy is the main factor affecting attendances. People keep banging on about Huddersfield's crowds and how poor marketing is but at the end of the day they have tried to increase support by offering heavily discounted tickets for a number of seasons. This year season ticket prices have doubled and on the day prices have also increased and yet attendance has only fallen by 20%. Regardless of position in the league do you seriously expect more people to buy a product that has doubled in price?

I wont bore you with my background but rest assured I don't have any hatred of numbers.
Wildmoose asked what was the point of this thread (a question that was first asked on Page 3 by the way). If its just to record and monitor attendances that's fine but I don't get that impression - do you? I don't know William or where he's coming from but my problem with the thread is the subtext: the apparent gloating enjoyment of the fact that crowds are down with the justification that he is merely countering the positive spin from RFL and the "sheep" on this board.
I don't have any problem with "bad news" and I don't think anyone's ignoring it but the fact that attendances are down is only significant if the trend continues in subsequent years. Until then, the tone of William's posts force me to conclude that there is a hidden agenda involving to talk the game down for some reason. I find that sad.

That being the case, one can only ask why you didn’t last year?

Why I didn't what?

Shout from the rooftops about our increase in attendances.

We have had increases in attendances for nigh on 15 years now. We havent yet had a 140 page thread on how brilliant the RFL and clubs are. You certainly havent contributed to one.

One can only ask why?

If you just look at RL it can look like a worrying downtrend. But other sports are in a bigger mess; they just wont admit it (well, the media are scared to mention it publicly).

If you watch Sky sports or BBC/ITV, the whole world can't wait for the new tartball season to start ..... yet, outside of a small handfull of top clubs, whose gates are ensured sellouts due not to local fans but corporate travelling support from around the world, the game is falling apart. 90% of games are heavily discounted (50% off admission or BOGOF's) yet you can still purchase tickets right up to kickoff .... and that includes some supposedly 'big' clubs ........ Go back only a few years and that wasn't the case. Sport in general relies on the public having spare cash to spend, and right now, there isn't enough to go around.

It isn't the end of the sport, it is just tough times in my opinion. It needs to be resolved, or at least plans put in place by each club to avoid a smaller attendance causing them financial issues.
Each are doing that in a different way.

Wakefield have worked hard on attendances this year. We are ahead on equivilant fixtures last year and look like coming in around the same number, whichw as already a big increase from the year before.
Average so far is 8,113 whereas last years same fixtures ran at 8,052.
Last year's average was 8,172 so within reach.

It isn't solving all our financial issues. Cash flow is still a problem when 3 of our biggest home game fixtures are in the last few games of the season. That's just how it goes.

I apparently joined this forum in April 2012. Since when, I haven't unfortunately had the opportunity to shout from the rooftops about a 10% increase in attendances. As and when it happens, let me know and I'll start the thread for you.

we all believe you

First up, the OP isn't responsible for the length of the thread. That the thread 'has a point' is a tautology - it wouldn't stretch to 130 pages if nobody was interested in the content. What the 'point' is to you personally I'm sure varies from individual to individual, but it certainly collects strong views on changes in attendance, the significance or otherwise of those changes, and people's opinions as to the reason for those changes. If such discussion is 'pointless', then I'm not sure what that says about all the other threads. I find it interesting that some people regard a 10% fall as nothing to worry about and entirely down to 'mitigating circumstances'. I think those people are very foolish, but I find their views interesting nonetheless - in particular I wonder (and worry) if their views are shared by the RFL, etc.