Some clubs need to send a few more young players out then. Not sure of numbers but iam sure some clubs dont use it as much as they could (which would be developmently beneficial to them instead of putting out their strongest team in the reserves). Because they will learn more in NL than in the reserves in my opinion.

These clubs choose not to use this system,whats the problem?

It should be used more by SL clubs instead of fielding the strongest reserve team in my opinion. A young player would learn more in NL and become more rugby intelligent playing there which would benefit the SL club more in the long run than playing a player exclusively in the reserves. It takes u21s out of their comfort zones playing NL against intelligent ex SL players/wily veterans and brings the players game on more than playing against less experienced reserve players. In a nutshell i think it is underused.

Its got nothing to do with the SL clubs.If some of the CC clubs choose to use this system upto a maximum of 4 players then thats up to them,If other CC clubs choose not to use this system then thats up to them.

And lost 5 former PL clubs, and gained two tiny clubs from the league below. It's swings and roundabouts. The best eventually go to the top.

The irony is you'd also be complaining had Widnes not gone up and someone else did (say Crusaders for instance). Again, you can't have it both ways.


For someone saying I use obscure examples, this is a pretty ironic reply!

They pay millions more in wages. The costs are completely different. As are the number of games they can physically play a season (even a week). Not to mention you don't play 9 games a year, do you? You discard other games to peddle your argument.


Well don't argue about it then. You can't claim the Championship is on its knees because of less TV coverage and then say you think it would be better off TV. It's whinging for the sake of whinging.

You're entitled to your opinion (I disagree with it, but aren't arrogant enough to believe I'm right and you're wrong). But you are not entitled to peddle two contrasting arguments when you feel like it.


Selective in what way? What haven't I addressed?

The way I see it is you are selective in what you want to read. I have addressed everything you've asked me to address.

Which is what I think the feeder situation should be. If a Championship club wants to partner up with a SL club, they should be allowed.

I am of the belief that every player should be playing at as high a level as possible every week. There are a pool of players not getting played every week in SL that have to make do with playing academy level when they could be playing Championship level, strengthening that pool of players.

Sorry mate i've already given you my opinion on this.

Sorry, I missed that post during Starbug's contradictions on the TV situation.


No, it's not SL's job to produce internationals anymore than it is Championship club's job. Internationals can come from anywhere. It's up to the game as a whole to produce players as good as possible.

If you create a new league and invite new clubs to it, wouldn't that be more damaging to the Championship than allowing them to be feeder clubs in that league?

Saying that, in Aus they have the NSW Cup (feeder comp) and the Bundaberg Rum Cup (semi-pro comp). The NSW Cup is regarded as the bigger of the two though, so essentially doing what you're saying to do would demote clubs choosing not to become feeder clubs.

While the sky grant that goes to sle has gone up The rfl/sle have cut the grant that come down to the CCs,that tells me how important the rfl/sle see the CCs to the devolopement of rl in this country.so i'll say again,its the interests of the CCs that are important to the clubs of the CCs,not the intersts of sle or the international game.

The CCs are what they are mate and nothing is going to change that, unless they change it themselves,so if sle want a feeder legue they need to sort it out themselves.

Wouldn't partnerships between SL and CC clubs see them get more money though (well, "save" money, make more money available)?

They see SL as more important in the development of players (as it's the top league so this is obviously the case). But that doesn't mean they see the Championships as worthless. It's an inferiority complex to believe that.

If there are a group of Championship clubs that would prefer to be stand alone then that's fine. That's their choice. If there are a group of Championship clubs that would prefer the help of being in a partnership then they currently don't have that choice. I think it would be better that they all play together if they're of a similar standard rather than separate and essentially weaken both competitions.

.Then theres gatehead,sws, skolers,hemel stags,bristol sonics,coventry bears,crusaders,theres league wellsy,get on with it.

If SL clubs want to enter into formal agreements with Championship clubs they already can , to the tune of several season long loans and up to 4 DR players , if the RFL thought it would be beneficial to go further than that , I'm sure they'd happily change the rules , the reason they haven't so far I'd guess is the SL clubs don't want it , and the Championship clubs don't want it

It was you who brought football into the situation , not me , I didn't include the 2 NRC games , but also didn't include lots of other games the FL teams play

You believe what you want , you haven't a clue what is going on below SL , you keep on believing the bollox that comes out of Red Hall , I'm glad Nigel is so excited , at least somebody is , because I can tell you for certain , nobody down here is , the RFL haven't a clue how to deal with the Championships , this year has been a farce , they announced an expansion and re structuring before they'd had any actual clubs apply to join , they've finally realised that Toulouse were a mistake , and yet they are now considering an Anglo French competition , how thick are they ?

No contradiction on the TV deal from me , they either pay for it , or it doesnt get shown , and that includes the finals as well