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| Quote: gutterfax "Why should I? I didn't mention Union...you did and only selectively at that.
Your infatuation with Union is quite disturbing WA Red.....are you a Farce ST holder?
As for the waffle, care to counter any of the points I made about the state of Professional RL in Great Britain at the moment, or do you just do sweeping statements?
BTW......here's some more facts for you
I wouldn't really disagree with many of the details you post about either Union or League
However you have picked out the bad parts of League and the good parts of Union.
They have had clubs in financial difficulties as well and only a few get the big crowds same as League.
The running of the game and the power of the sponsors are a quantum leap apart unfortunately. That will be the case for a long time. The product we have is unfortunately better but invisible to many.
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| Quote: gutterfax "Why should I? I didn't mention Union...you did and only selectively at that.
Your infatuation with Union is quite disturbing WA Red.....are you a Farce ST holder?
As for the waffle, care to counter any of the points I made about the state of Professional RL in Great Britain at the moment, or do you just do sweeping statements?
BTW......here's some more facts for you
You stated "sports" (note the plural) are riding this wave that RL has missed. Come on genius tell us which "sports" you were referring to. Clearly not football or union so which ones? Maybe water polo or archery is drawing the crowds! Lol.
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UPDATE...
SL Round 23 attendances - comparison to same fixtures last year
London V Leeds in 2013 = 2,377
London V Leeds in 2012 = 3,628
% decrease = -34.48%
Hull V Widnes in 2013 = 10,500
Hull V Widnes in 2012 = 10,705
% decrease = -1.91%
Wigan V Hull KR in 2013 = 12,194
Wigan V Hull KR in 2012 = 14,457
% decrease = -15.65%
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| Quote: William Eve "UPDATE...
SL Round 23 attendances - comparison to same fixtures last year
London V Leeds in 2013
These figures are all fine an dandy, but...
Leeds knew they'd win, why travel to London when money is tight and a long way to go mid week.
London are rubbish.
Hull were at home and have a good crowd.
Widnes are rubbish, knew they'd probably lose and money is tight.
Wigan were at home and have a good crowd.
My boys are having a bad season against Wigan (THAT game at Craven Park which I had the misfortune of attending), and even though we have a decent away following, it's on the box on a Friday night.
The general consensus - Money is tight because of the state of the economy. End of thread.
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UPDATE...
SL Round 23 attendances - comparison to same fixtures last year
London V Leeds in 2013 = 2,377
London V Leeds in 2012 = 3,628
% decrease = -34.48%
Hull V Widnes in 2013 = 10,500
Hull V Widnes in 2012 = 10,705
% decrease = -1.91%
Wigan V Hull KR in 2013 = 12,194
Wigan V Hull KR in 2012 = 14,457
% decrease = -15.65%
Catalan V St Helens in 2013 = 8,582
Catalan V St Helens in 2012 = 10,387
% decrease = -17.38%
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| Quote: Gallanteer "These figures are all fine an dandy, but...
Leeds knew they'd win, why travel to London when money is tight and a long way to go mid week.
London are rubbish.'"
There would have been more Leeds fans at the London game had the fixture not been changed only a few weeks prior to the game. |
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Clearly the financial problems England's having is having an impact, as it is with other professional sports.
I would like to see the rfl and clubs get together to develop a consistent membership model with fair and reasonable pricing structure.
Time for the RFL and clubs to work together to find some better answers, as they say many hands make light work!
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| Quote: JB Down Under "Clearly the financial problems England's having is having an impact, as it is with other professional sports.'"
The economy is growing. And if you'd seen the turnout by Saints fans in Perpignan you wouldn't have thought there had ever been a problem with the economy! |
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| SL Round 23 attendances - comparison to same fixtures last year
London V Leeds in 2013 Total Attendance in SL Round 23
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Only Wakefield and their mega-cheap season ticket holders were successful in securing a home attendance which was in excess of the attendance for the same fixture last season. Well done to them for ensuring that Round 23 didn't clock up another 7 out of 7 attendances which were down on last season. Well done also to the Bradford fans who turned up. They must have had their wages paid on time.
There must surely be increasing concerns regarding top of the table Huddersfield and their dreadful home attendances this season. A paltry attendance today of 5,345 which was 23.51% down on the attendance for the same fixture last season. One wonders quite what their supporters will blame their poor attendance on this week because it wasn't played on a Monday night, or on a Saturday, or on a Thursday, nor was it on TV. Huddersfield's attendances are down by 20.94% overall compared to last year 
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1 out of 7 fixtures in Round 23 have shown an increase in attendance compared to the same SL fixtures last year. 6 out of 7 fixtures in Round 23 have shown a decrease in attendance compared to the same SL fixtures last year.
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Out of 154 fixtures played thus far in 2013 (not including magic weekend fixtures), 39 out of 154 have shown an increase in attendance compared to the corresponding SL fixtures last year. 115 out of 154 fixtures have shown a decrease in attendance compared to the corresponding SL fixtures last year.
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Round 1 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 Round 2 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 Round 3 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 Round 4 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 Round 5 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 Round 6 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 Round 7 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 Round 8 Fixtures (7 in total) **updated to take into account completed Wakefield V Leeds fixture**
Total attendance in 2013 Round 9 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 Round 10 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 Round 11 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 Round 12 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 Round 13 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 Round 14 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 Round 15 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 Round 16 MAGIC WEEKEND Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 Round 17 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 Round 18 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 Round 19 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 Round 20 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 Round 21 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 Round 22 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 Round 23 Fixtures (7 in total)
Total attendance in 2013 Rounds 1 to 23 Fixtures (161 in total)
Total attendance for 154 fixtures plus 7 MAGIC fixtures in 2013
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You mention Wakefields "mega cheap" season tickets but whatever the start point, the price was increased by 20% and they will be back somewhere near their true price next season.
The economy is still screwed and watching sport is a "luxury" which unfortunately, it is possible to live without.
Salford and London have most cause for concern but, you will see a fairly hefty lift in crowds at Salford next season.
Regarding the London Leeds fixture.
Thursday night away in London is a shocker for whichever team is making the journey but, if you take Sky's money, its the price that you have to pay.
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Club... Games... 2013... 2012... %gain/loss
Leeds... 11... 167112... 165695... +0.86%
Wakefield... 11... 89246... 88575... +0.76%
Widnes... 11... 67323... 67874... -0.81%
Hull... 11... 129413... 132008... -1.97%
Hull KR... 11... 80807... 85413... -5.39%
Catalan... 11... 91161... 96625... -5.65%
Warrington... 11... 118590... 126145... -5.99%
Castleford... 11... 68529... 73294... -6.50%
Wigan... 10... 142065... 158678... -10.47%
St Helens... 11... 122842... 154142... -20.31%
Huddersfield... 12... 74033... 93644... -20.94%
London... 12... 26762... 34533... -22.50%
Bradford... 10... 87974... 120964... -27.27%
Salford... 11... 33612... 59452... -43.46%
SUBTOTAL... 154... 1299469... 1457042... -10.81%
Magic Weekend... 7... 62042... 63716... -2.63%
TOTAL... 161... 1361511... 1520758... -10.47%
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Current Average Attendances V Same Fixtures Last Year
Club... SL
Leeds... 15192... (15063)
Wigan... 14206... (1586icon_cool.gif
Hull... 11765... (12001)
St Helens... 11167... (14013)
Warrington... 10781... (1146icon_cool.gif
Bradford... 8797... (12096)
Catalan... 8287... (8784)
Wakefield... 8113... (8052)
Hull KR... 7346... (7765)
Castleford... 6230... (6663)
Huddersfield... 6169... (7804)
Widnes... 6120... (6170)
Salford... 3056... (5405)
London... 2230... (287icon_cool.gif
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What point are you trying to make with this thread?
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