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| It also coincided with Hock leaving. Was he a negative influence on playmakers like Chase?
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The Jonah of Rugby League clubs (add the French national side to that)!.
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| Quote John Gilbert Reds="John Gilbert Reds"Coincidental our recent good form has come following a 3 week visit from Tim Sheens? Who knows, I there are plenty of factors such as releasing Gareth Hock but one thing for sure is Iestyn Harris deserves plenty of praise too. He's recruited well since he took over as head coach, he's got us playing tough, aggressive and skilful RL and the team spirit is extremely high.'"
I stood at Salford yesterday thinking to myself about how you've picked up since Hock left. Whilst at Wigan we didn't win a thing yet whilst he was banned or when he left we picked up plenty.
2010-Banned-Won LLS and Grand Final
2011- Banned half the season- Won Challenge cup
2012- Played all year- Won LLS but flopped in semis of both CC and GF.
2013- Left- Won the CC and GF double.
Makes you wonder.
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| Quote NickyKiss="NickyKiss"I stood at Salford yesterday thinking to myself about how you've picked up since Hock left. Whilst at Wigan we didn't win a thing yet whilst he was banned or when he left we picked up plenty.
2010-Banned-Won LLS and Grand Final
2011- Banned half the season- Won Challenge cup
2012- Played all year- Won LLS but flopped in semis of both CC and GF.
2013- Left- Won the CC and GF double.
Makes you wonder.'"
He's made a good start at Leigh 
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| I'm bloody glad you lot let hock go! Nobody can doubt the lad is world class yes???? He made a good start on Monday and let's not beat around the bush Workington were niggling at him he just kept he's head and come back with some big shots! The lad has been a liability in the past no doubt but he looked hungry on Monday long may it continue
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| Quote oggy123="oggy123"I'm bloody glad you lot let hock go! Nobody can doubt the lad is world class yes???? He made a good start on Monday and let's not beat around the bush Workington were niggling at him he just kept he's head and come back with some big shots! The lad has been a liability in the past no doubt but he looked hungry on Monday long may it continue'"
How do Leigh afford Hock and Fui Fui Moi Moi, plus an entire full time squad, under the Championship salary cap 
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| Quote JEAN CAPDOUZE="JEAN CAPDOUZE"How do Leigh afford Hock and Fui Fui Moi Moi, plus an entire full time squad, under the Championship salary cap
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Hock *should* be playing for free, its surely his last chance in the sport at professional level.
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| Quote oggy123="oggy123"I'm bloody glad you lot let hock go! Nobody can doubt the lad is world class yes???? He made a good start on Monday and let's not beat around the bush Workington were niggling at him he just kept he's head and come back with some big shots! The lad has been a liability in the past no doubt but he looked hungry on Monday long may it continue'"
Always does for a few weeks/months. We'll see how he goes in a few months when he's not on his best behaviour anymore.
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| It's a risk worth taking pal
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| Quote oggy123="oggy123"It's a risk worth taking pal'"
For Leigh I fully agree. They're a club on the up who want to get in to superleague and Hock is an unbelievable talent. At his best he's as good as any forward in world rugby league but his issues have ruined his career.
He's got this opportunity at Leigh now to try and turn things around. If he can have a positive few years before retirement his talent may not have all been wasted.
Changing a lifetimes worth of habits though can be difficult.
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| Quote oggy123="oggy123"I'm bloody glad you lot let hock go! Nobody can doubt the lad is world class yes???? He made a good start on Monday and let's not beat around the bush Workington were niggling at him he just kept he's head and come back with some big shots! The lad has been a liability in the past no doubt but he looked hungry on Monday long may it continue'"
Jesus Christ, he looked good against a part-time Workington team that was probably littered with some young kids from Wigan on DR? He should be looking good against opposition like that. A proper test of his character, ability and mental state will be in the games against Bradford and Super League opposition during the Super 8's (or whatever name has been given to the split!).
No doubt he's a good (not great) player on his day, but since he left our performances on the pitch has increased ten-fold and the team spirit is visibly 100% better.
Hopefully it turns out to be a good move for both Salford and Leigh.
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| Quote John Gilbert Reds="John Gilbert Reds"Jesus Christ, he looked good against a part-time Workington team that was probably littered with some young kids from Wigan on DR? He should be looking good against opposition like that. A proper test of his character, ability and mental state will be in the games against Bradford and Super League opposition during the Super 8's (or whatever name has been given to the split!).
No doubt he's a good (not great) player on his day, but since he left our performances on the pitch has increased ten-fold and the team spirit is visibly 100% better.
Hopefully it turns out to be a good move for both Salford and Leigh.'"
Why are you denigrating Hock's playing ability ?
On his day, he is world class and is a handful for ANY defence.
IF he keeps his head, he will be a fantastic player for Leigh but, its a big IF.
Just because he "failed" at Salford, it's no reason to relegate him to "good".
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