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| Not actually seen a replay of it but my first reaction when watching it live was 'bloody hell, that's a shocker' !!
if it was deliberate then he should cop a huge ban for that, we dont need it in our game.
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| Quote ="Neil HFC"Don't want to be admiting that, the legal types at Red Hall may interpert it as repeat behaviour. Very poor strategy from the defence.'"
I was never defending the tackle, just the misconception that it was an elbow.
Sloppy technique that will see him get banned, if Cas had a good coach he would also spend time having it trained out of him.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"[uBecause every international has the exact same uniform technique do they?[/u
He did the exact same thing to Kevin Sinfield last year, you know what the difference was? sinfield didn't side step and took the hit front on - no damage done apart from being a bit groggy.'"
No but as an International you should know how to tackle!!
So it was the victims fault for side stepping now
It was a disgusting cheap shot, I have always rated Chase highly! and nowI hope to never see him in an England shirt again.
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| Quote ="Neil HFC"Quote ="Gronk!"Because every international has the exact same uniform technique do they?
He did the exact same thing to Kevin Sinfield last year, you know what the difference was? sinfield didn't side step and took the hit front on - no damage done apart from being a bit groggy.'"
Don't want to be admiting that, the legal types at Red Hall may interpert it as repeat behaviour. Very poor strategy from the defence.'"
I think he's trying to use it to show that Chase is really a good egg, he's just a little clumsy. And not in any way a cowardly thug. No, sir.
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"Not actually seen a replay of it but my first reaction when watching it live was 'bloody hell, that's a shocker' !!
if it was deliberate then he should cop a huge ban for that, we dont need it in our game.'"
Who needs a replay when a blurred, grainy image with a circle drawn on it is available on this very thread?
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| If it was mistimed and Chase isn't that sort of person, why would he congratulate himself?
Clutching at straws twonk.
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| Quote ="mattj13"If it was mistimed and Chase isn't that sort of person, why would he congratulate himself?'"
Why did Jonathan Walker congratulate himself when he broke Luke Burgess' jaw from an accidental head collision...again on a shoulder charge?
If you allow shoulder charges, things like this will happen from time to time - the only way to stop it would be to copy Union and ban shoulder charging.
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| Quote ="mattj13"If it was mistimed and Chase isn't that sort of person, why would he congratulate himself?
Clutching at straws twonk.'"
He wasn't congratulating himself, he merely threw his arms up in exasperation that his perfectly innocent challenge was so unfortunately mistimed. Don't you know anything?
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| Quote ="Gronk!"Why did Jonathan Walker congratulate himself when he broke Luke Burgess' jaw from an accidental head collision...again on a shoulder charge?
If you allow shoulder charges, things like this will happen from time to time - the only way to stop it would be to copy Union and ban shoulder charging.'"
Apart from the fact you've already estabilished, through the medium of high def, high speed photography, that there was no shoulder involved. In this case you'd have to outlaw strikes to the chops with a fuzzy elbow/, and thats already been done.
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| Quote ="Neil HFC"Apart from the fact you've already estabilished, through the medium of high def, high speed photography, that there was no shoulder involved. In this case you'd have to outlaw strikes to the chops with a fuzzy elbow/booty, and thats already been done.'"
A poor attempt at a shoulder charge, like the one Chase made would make an excellent case for outlawing the shoulder charge because there are players who don't know how to do it properly and in a manner which can be considered safe.
Oh and just so you know, you can see the white shorts Cas were wearing further down the image ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| Quote ="Gronk!"Why did Jonathan Walker congratulate himself when he broke Luke Burgess' jaw from an accidental head collision...again on a shoulder charge?
If you allow shoulder charges, things like this will happen from time to time - the only way to stop it would be to copy Union and ban shoulder charging.'"
Are you Rangis dad or some-thing because this is just getting embarrassing and awkward ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| Gronk, don't try to defend it! Wait for the RFL verdict and then either gloat that you were right or man up and admit you were wrong. As things stand you're in a hole and still digging furiously!
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| Gronk, don't try to defend it! Wait for the RFL verdict and then either gloat that you were right or man up and admit you were wrong. As things stand you're in a hole and still digging furiously!
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| Whoops, not v. good with mobiles!
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| Quote ="wakeyrule"Gronk, don't try to defend it! Wait for the RFL verdict and then either gloat that you were right or man up and admit you were wrong. As things stand you're in a hole and still digging furiously!'"
Last thing I'm going to mention on this because it's going round in circles thanks to trolls:
It was a bad challenge, it was probably accidental but people like to think otherwise and there was no elbow involved. The only thing I've said is that there was no elbow involved, not that he should get away with it.
He will get a ban for it because of the nature of the challenge (high tackle) and the damage it caused, it really is that simple.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"Right seems nobody here can deal with just a word, here is photographic proof, here is initial contact and just to make it easier for you, Chase's elbow has a big red circle around it:
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That's as clear as you'll get it because the slow mo replay isn't very good, but clearly shows initial contact is not with the elbow.'"
It shows very little. Had you taken a still from that video just one second later you would have a perfectly blurred picture of Chase's forearm in direct contact with Ropati's face.
Deliberate and unjustifiable...unless you're Gronk.
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| You know it is a really bad tackle when Twonk is the only Cas fan trying to defend it
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| Quote ="Neil HFC"Quote ="Gronk!"Why did Jonathan Walker congratulate himself when he broke Luke Burgess' jaw from an accidental head collision...again on a shoulder charge?
If you allow shoulder charges, things like this will happen from time to time - the only way to stop it would be to copy Union and ban shoulder charging.'"
Apart from the fact you've already estabilished, through the medium of high def, high speed photography, that there was no shoulder involved. In this case you'd have to outlaw strikes to the chops with a fuzzy elbow/booty, and thats already been done.'"
Good arrows.
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"You know it is a really bad tackle when Twonk is the only Cas fan trying to defend it'"
He forgot to mention that he saw Rangi helping an old lady across the road today and that he gives all his wages to charity.
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"You know it is a really bad tackle when Twonk is the only Cas fan trying to defend it'"
I guess you struggle with basic comprehension?
Where did I say the tackle was fine, or that he shouldn't be banned for it?
Oh wait! That's right, I didn't say that.
The tackle deserves a ban, it will probably get banned but the notion he lead with his elbow is preposterous.
Quote ="Rock God X"He forgot to mention that he saw Rangi helping an old lady across the road today and that he gives all his wages to charity.'"
Not a very good troll are you?
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| Quote ="Gronk!"I guess you struggle with basic comprehension?
Where did I say the tackle was fine, or that he shouldn't be banned for it?
Oh wait! That's right, I didn't say that.
The tackle deserves a ban, it will probably get banned but the notion he lead with his elbow is preposterous.
Not a very good troll are you?'"
Whereas on page 1 of this very thread..
Quote ="Gronk!"Nothing, he mistimed a big hit.
It was that bad the ref said it was fine and the commentators loved it.'"
or Page 2
Quote ="Gronk!"Linesman waved play on, that's how bad it was
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| Quote ="Gronk!"Quote ="Durham Giant"You know it is a really bad tackle when Twonk is the only Cas fan trying to defend it'"
I guess you struggle with basic comprehension?
Where did I say the tackle was fine, or that he shouldn't be banned for it?
Oh wait! That's right, I didn't say that.
The tackle deserves a ban, it will probably get banned but the notion he lead with his elbow is preposterous.
Quote ="Rock God X"He forgot to mention that he saw Rangi helping an old lady across the road today and that he gives all his wages to charity.'"
Not a very good troll are you?'"
Troll? Hardly. Just marvelling at how blinkered you are.
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| Quote ="Neil HFC"Whereas on page 1 of this very thread..
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Which was after one look at it.
After looking at it again, whilst still mistimed and deemed legal by the officials, it was high and reckless.
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| Quote ="Neil HFC"Quote ="Gronk!"I guess you struggle with basic comprehension?
Where did I say the tackle was fine, or that he shouldn't be banned for it?
Oh wait! That's right, I didn't say that.
The tackle deserves a ban, it will probably get banned but the notion he lead with his elbow is preposterous.
Not a very good troll are you?'"
Whereas on page 1 of this very thread..
Quote ="Gronk!"Nothing, he mistimed a big hit.
It was that bad the ref said it was fine and the commentators loved it.'"
or Page 2
Quote ="Gronk!"Linesman waved play on, that's how bad it was
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That was before his high resolution image became available.
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| It really is embarrassing. First it was the refs fault Cas lost to a 2nd Division team, now it's a pathetic defence of an awful tackle.
Having seen the slow mo replay, the one on the Cas board, its a very bad one.
Yes he tries a big hit with his shoulder. But, as he gets close he knows he's mistimed it and is being stepped so he moves his elbow up and outward. Needs a long ban.
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