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| Quote ="jesus-is-coming"Hee hee you lot really are worried about us and our Derek ,keep going Derek your scaring the poop out of them.'"
Derek is a petulant child who has spat his dummy out. It happens when you start to believe your own press before coming down with a thud!
Quote ="jesus-is-coming"Let's look what's he achieved over the last two season built our fan base up from 1300 to 4000 in the lower division may I add with no away support apart from Bradford who fans have loyally stuck with them even though they go bankrupt every season and have a coach they have dispited all season.'"
41,657 fans over 11 games is 3,787. Remove Bradford attendance as you requested and you get a figure of 3,402.......that's not 4000.....I hope you're not in charge of cap calculations at Leigh!
Quote ="jesus-is-coming"Brought in better quality players this season with more promised in the next month.'"
Garreth Hock......and the others were that good they got beaten by London, Halifax and Bradford...and Fax and Bradford in IMPORTANT GAMES!
Quote ="jesus-is-coming"A style of play that got fans and press excited,'" and kept the disciplinary busy!
Quote ="jesus-is-coming"darlings of the BBC with our cup run and massive media exposure record sponsorship into the club.'"
lol...massive sponsorship. Landrover paying 20 million + is massive sponsorship.....as for darlings of the BBC, they like the romance of the cup that's all......most of the lovies wouldn't be able to pick leigh out on a map!
Quote ="jesus-is-coming"Now all our Derek wants is Leigh to have the same salary cap as our super league competitors what's wrong with that he wants to fund it he can afford and we pull in more crowds than some of the super league clubs so why can't he spend the same cap the only extra funding they get is the sky money.'"
Because currently the rules say he can't. He voted for these rules by the way and was happy until the wheels fell off a fortnight ago.
Quote ="jesus-is-coming"It's been stated on here many times that a legal challenge in court would win as its a restriction of trade pure and simple its like saying to asda you can only spend 1 million on advertising but tesco can spend 1.8 million.'"
Tesco and Asda aren't signed up to be governed by a governing Body......Leigh are and therefore are subject to the rules of that body. If you don't like the rules, leave or change the governing body, but challenging them in a court of law will only make one profession wealthier.
Quote ="jesus-is-coming"So keep up your hating were loving it,we will be back bigger and better next year the club learned a lot from these playoffs found were we need to strengthen and will.'"
Pause, rewind, play again........Pause, Rewind, Play Again..Pause, rewind, play again........Pause, Rewind, Play Again..Pause, rewind, play again........Pause, Rewind, Play Again..Pause, rewind, play again........Pause, Rewind, Play Again..
Nobody hates Leigh by the way...just gobby little urchins who give it the "big I am" all season and then whine and bitch when it falls apart.....
See you at Ealing Trailfinders next season.......Headingley it ain't but we should be able to accommodate you all 
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| Threatening to sue the competition over their operational rules is about as stupid as it ing gets.
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| Quote ="headhunter"Threatening to sue the competition over their operational rules is about as stupid as it loving gets.'"
Threatening to do something and actually doing it are entirely different, just bringing an issue to the table, and posturing, hes not the 1 st and wont be the last
Do I agree with him? , no
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| Quote ="Starbug"Unfair'"
If you'd seen the season Petone Panthers had just had you'd think he'd got of lightly! 
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| Quote ="The Changing Man"If you'd seen the season Petone Panthers had just had you'd think he'd got of lightly!
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Still unfair, the club is unrecognisablecompared to 3/4 years ago, all because of 2 things, a structure that allows clubs to progress due to on field performance and somebody willing to invest under those circumstances
Many have suggested that Leigh would have been a ' shoe in ' for a licence, but that isnt true as the investement wouldnt have happened under that system
Many mistakes have been made, more will be made , most will be rectified
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| I'd like to make it clear that I don't like Leigh. I never have done. However, it cannot be denied that Beaumont has re-energised the club and the direction of travel is positive. For that he deserves some credit. I am not sure why some fans of opposition clubs get wound-up by some titbits he gave to the media.
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| Quote ="Starbug"Still unfair, the club is unrecognisablecompared to 3/4 years ago, all because of 2 things, a structure that allows clubs to progress due to on field performance and somebody willing to invest under those circumstances
Many have suggested that Leigh would have been a ' shoe in ' for a licence, but that isnt true as the investement wouldnt have happened under that system
Many mistakes have been made, more will be made , most will be rectified'"
I responded specifically and accurately to Jesus's comments....4k is not right as an average even with Bradford, regardless of if the style of play was nice your players were regularly the topic of the the disciplinary and the rules for salary cap and transfers as they are were agreed at the start...just because it didn't pan out for him is no defence for the dummy spitting of the Leigh collective!
As a whole I have little problem with Leigh or their charismatic owner who as you say, has revitalised the club. Unfortunately, his dummy spit combined with the small section of Leigh fans on-line who have claimed that the team would win everything have painted the club in a tarnished light over the last fortnight. Wins in the cup v average under performing sides and a close game against a Wire in decline resulted in countless threads on the VT and on those club boards where Leigh "fans" bragged and boasted of their rise from the ashes with a Grand Final appearance only a matter of a few years away......alas, its Ealing Trailfinders for another season at least.
As for spending to the cap in pursuit of promotion or to avoid relegation........isn't that what got us into the mess in the first place? Having money doesn't = staying up (London) or winning Grand Finals (Huddersfield/Wakefield)
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| Quote ="jesus-is-coming"Hee hee you lot really are worried about us and our Derek ,keep going Derek your scaring the poop out of them.'"
Yep - I'm caking it.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"Yep - I'm caking it.'"
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| Quote ="Enfield Exile"I'd like to make it clear that I don't like Leigh. I never have done. However, it cannot be denied that Beaumont has re-energised the club and the direction of travel is positive. For that he deserves some credit. I am not sure why some fans of opposition clubs get wound-up by some titbits he gave to the media.'"
Just while you're here, how do you like them massive floodlights at the AJ Bell stadium?
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| Oh dear the changing man is not worried then set off with a fantastic rant and them stats as well  Derek is playing them like a good un,so let's keep raising the bar Derek,all I know statto was a couple of years back we were bobin along on 300k a year which we usually lost to the tax man as we were always skint now we are pulling in over 4000 crowds unless I've imagined the last month or so please tottle off and check for me don't let facts get in your way,like I said record sponsorship for us more income through our BBC appearances tied into sponsorship deals and were still growing...... Keep hating its making us stronger.....P's our Derek as plenty of bottles of water left
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| Don't haters just hate the successful....why would anyone hate a tinpot club.
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"Just while you're here, how do you like them massive floodlights at the AJ Bell stadium?'"
What are you on about?
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| 14/15 pages is more than we have ever had before, I would deem that a success.
Halifax, Batley, Bradford whoever I don't particularly care who we start off playing next year the fact is if we perform well enough we are back playing SL clubs again in August 2016.
Good luck everybody See you all then.
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| Quote ="jesus-is-coming"Oh dear the changing man is not worried then set off with a fantastic rant and them stats as well'"
stats generally deal with liars like you.....mine were spot on. You've not averaged 4k......
Quote ="jesus-is-coming"don't let facts get in your way'"
All I posted were facts......it's you that lives in the realms of fantasy.
Gotta love Leigh and their feeder club Salford fans giving it the big "I am" for the last 24 months and yet pretty much exactly where they were 24 months ago.
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| Quote ="jesus-is-coming"Oh dear the changing man is not worried then set off with a fantastic rant and them stats as well
Derek is playing them like a good un,so let's keep raising the bar Derek,all I know statto was a couple of years back we were bobin along on 300k a year which we usually lost to the tax man as we were always skint now we are pulling in over 4000 crowds unless I've imagined the last month or so please tottle off and check for me don't let facts get in your way,like I said record sponsorship for us more income through our BBC appearances tied into sponsorship deals and were still growing...... Keep hating its making us stronger.....P's our Derek as plenty of bottles of water left'"
All of which helpfully serves to illustrate the point I made earlier.
Nobody is being played, the bar isn't being raised and no matter how much water Derek has, he can't take legal action against the operational rules of a competition he signed up to take part in.
Aside from that, good luck for next year.
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| Quote ="bren2k"All of which helpfully serves to illustrate the point I made earlier.
Nobody is being played, the bar isn't being raised and no matter how much water Derek has, he can't take legal action against the operational rules of a competition he signed up to take part in.
Aside from that, good luck for next year.'"
If an operational rules is illegal. Whether you signed up for it or not it cannot be enforced.
The bigger question about the SC is how much the rfl is willing to go into bat to protect a rule that doesn't actually effect or benefit them. This is a possibility illegal rule the RFL administer but don't actually get anything out of.
I would bet, like the quota, we never actually get to the courts and as soon as the lawyers get involved there will be an 'accomodation' made.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"If an operational rules is illegal. Whether you signed up for it or not it cannot be enforced.'"
In what way is the salary cap illegal?
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| Quote ="bren2k"In what way is the salary cap illegal?'"
Its not. Any player can earn themselves up to anything they want in theory. However in practise it would mean that no other player playing for the same club can be paid. The RFL aren't restricting trade or what someone can earn, they are telling clubs how much they can spend on players.
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| Quote ="bren2k"In what way is the salary cap illegal?'"
It's a collusion between owners to restrict the earnings of players. It is by its very definition a restraint of trade. There is no argument it isn't. There may be an argument that it is a reasonable one. On the previous reasoning given by the RFL as to that I think that would be a difficult argument to make. The rfl and clubs may feel differently.
There is different arguments to be made as well. Derek Beaumont is unlikely to bring a restraint of trade case. He would more likely look at other avenues. It would more likely be a player who does so
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| Quote ="LifeLongHKRFan"Its not. Any player can earn themselves up to anything they want in theory. However in practise it would mean that no other player playing for the same club can be paid. The RFL aren't restricting trade or what someone can earn, they are telling clubs how much they can spend on players.'"
You are going to have a hard time convincing anyone with even a tiny bit of a brain that a salary cap is not a a restriction on earnings.
I mean the entire reason for being of a salary cap is to cap salaries. That is literally all it does and all it sets out to do. It is nothing other than a cap on salaries.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"You are going to have a hard time convincing anyone with even a tiny bit of a brain that a salary cap is not a a restriction on earnings.
I mean the entire reason for being of a salary cap is to cap salaries. That is literally all it does and all it sets out to do. It is nothing other than a cap on salaries.'"
It may be a bit pedantic but in theory a club can pay a player whatever he wants. Its up to the club how much they can afford.
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| Quote ="LifeLongHKRFan"It may be a bit pedantic but in theory a club can pay a player whatever he wants. Its up to the club how much they can afford.'"
Neither in theory nor practice is that true.
And even if it were true, it has the clear and demonstrable effect of lowering wages and would still need to be defensible.
Some may think that there are trade interest and public interest arguments that could be used to defend the SC. I think on the evidence of its actual effects those arguments would be difficult to make.
I don't think anyone. Even the rfl. Would defend the SC on the basis of a theoretical possibility of only 1 player being paid the entire wage, not least because that is still a cap. (And would also contravene other SL rules.)
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| Hang on, Leigh haven't been promoted then ? wow ! i remember one of their fans stating they would easily be top 6 in super league next year... oops !!
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