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| GAME ON : Warrington Wolves v St. Helens - 15:15:00 GENERAL CHAT ABOUT THE GAME, BUILD UP, THE ACTION AS IT HAPPENS AND AFTERMATH BELOW.
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| Why does Atkins always celebrate tries he didn’t score? Nob.
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| Getting a bit tasty for a dead rubber. I dont think there was much in the challenge from Lees. A penalty is fair enough but no malice in it imo. When the video is reviewed one or two may get bans for punching though.
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| Easy win. I don’t care what the wolfs fans say, no team goes out there with the intention of not really playing, especially at home. Outclassed everywhere. Lees is gonna have full pockets on his way home with all of warringtons pack in them
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| Quote: Trainman "Getting a bit tasty for a dead rubber. I dont think there was much in the challenge from Lees. A penalty is fair enough but no malice in it imo. When the video is reviewed one or two may get bans for punching though.'"
Nevertheless, it was reckless and if he played for Warrington it would be a 3-5 match ban.
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| Quote: Lebron James "Easy win. I don’t care what the wolfs fans say, no team goes out there with the intention of not really playing, especially at home. Outclassed everywhere. Lees is gonna have full pockets on his way home with all of warringtons pack in them
Regards
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What would you expect? You've got a better team and your supporters are better looking and more intelligent than us.
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| Quote: Trainman "Getting a bit tasty for a dead rubber. I dont think there was much in the challenge from Lees. A penalty is fair enough but no malice in it imo. When the video is reviewed one or two may get bans for punching though.'"
He'll get a few games for that I reckon.
Intent plays a part but so does the player's responsibility to the opponent and point of impact. You can't come in like that and smash your knee into a players head/neck, intent or not. Using knees is a big no-no, dangerous contact to the head/neck is a massive no-no.
Still, spiced things up for a while.
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| Nothing in it. Wasn’t intentional. Westwood’s was worse, deliberately attaching the Knees. I expect that from him though. Made a career out of being a grub. Except against Castleford of course
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| Quote: Lebron James "Nothing in it. Wasn’t intentional. Westwood’s was worse, deliberately attaching the Knees. I expect that from him though. Made a career out of being a grub. Except against Castleford of course
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King James'"
As Tom Lineham found out, it doesn't matter whether it was deliberate or not, the key word is "reckless" and if you're a Warrington player that can result in a 3-5 match ban.
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| Quote: Cronus "He'll get a few games for that I reckon.
Intent plays a part but so does the player's responsibility to the opponent and point of impact. You can't come in like that and smash your knee into a players head/neck, intent or not. Using knees is a big no-no, dangerous contact to the head/neck is a massive no-no.
Still, spiced things up for a while.
He didn't do anything wrong. He's running into smash him with a big and perfectly pegal hit and he's tackled and falls. How can he predict that? Are you seriously saying players can't move forward or stand in front of the ball carrier now in case the ball carrier falls and hits his head on them?
Worst challenge in the game was Mike Cooper on Bentley.
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| Quote: Saddened! "He didn't do anything wrong. He's running into smash him with a big and perfectly pegal hit and he's tackled and falls. How can he predict that? Are you seriously saying players can't move forward or stand in front of the ball carrier now in case the ball carrier falls and hits his head on them?
Worst challenge in the game was Mike Cooper on Bentley.'"
If the man is tackled it should be clear to the one who's coming in to smash him that he may fall when tackled. Consequently, his action is reckless.
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| Quote: Saddened! "He didn't do anything wrong. He's running into smash him with a big and perfectly pegal hit and he's tackled and falls. How can he predict that? Are you seriously saying players can't move forward or stand in front of the ball carrier now in case the ball carrier falls and hits his head on them?
Worst challenge in the game was Mike Cooper on Bentley.'"
He may not have intended the outcome, but the fact remains he made contact using the knee (illegal) on the head/neck (also illegal) in a dangerous manner that resulted in injury and the player being ruled out for the remainder of the game.
silver2 has it right; reckless is the key. I know you think the rules shouldn't apply for St Helens, but they do.
Bet you also think Billy Slater should play next Sunday.
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| Quote: silver2 "If the man is tackled it should be clear to the one who's coming in to smash him that he may fall when tackled. Consequently, his action is reckless.'"
Not at all, he simply can't see that coming. If you're going to play the reckless card, every player who is aggressive in contact or runs the ball in hard is also reckless. Example a player running a ball in from a drop out. They often run as hard and fast as they can into the defenders. That's reckless. There have been several similar incidents in games this season and none were penalties or bans.
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Warrington Wolfs - 0
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| Quote: Saddened! "Not at all, he simply can't see that coming. If you're going to play the reckless card, every player who is aggressive in contact or runs the ball in hard is also reckless. Example a player running a ball in from a drop out. They often run as hard and fast as they can into the defenders. That's reckless. There have been several similar incidents in games this season and none were penalties or bans.'"
And people wonder why RL has gone soft and lost its appeal. Case in point, Billy Slater looking at missing the NRL grand final. Soon it will just be a game of tag
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King James
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| Quote: Saddened! "He didn't do anything wrong. He's running into smash him with a big and perfectly pegal hit and he's tackled and falls. How can he predict that? Are you seriously saying players can't move forward or stand in front of the ball carrier now in case the ball carrier falls and hits his head on them?
Worst challenge in the game was Mike Cooper on Bentley.'"
When you look at the other camera angle it was more of a collision than a reckless tackle, if Roberts hadn't been going downwards from the tackle a couple of seconds earlier then Lees would have smashed him. I don't see how Lees could have made a split second prediction on what the outcome is going to be.
What annoys me most is that Lomax gets clobbered with this type of tackle every week and it never gets punished, I though Cooper and Westwood went beyond borderline with some of there tackles today.
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