Genuine question will Barba be seen as the same whenever he decides to leave? Or does it depend on the silverware coming this year too?

I would say no, Ben Barba has probably been one of our worse players in the last 3 or 4 games he's played. From what I can remember Meninga was "on the button" most of the time scored 38 tries in the season, didn't carry any controversy and what stood out was how tough he was and very rarely dominated.

Yeah that was my thinking, although he didnt look fully fit last time i saw him, knee looked heavily strapped. I think Lyon, Gidley etc did more. Don't get me wrong it has been great seeing someone of his quality here but I think he owuld need a couple more seasons to go into folklore

Quote: Judder Man "I would say no, Ben Barba has probably been one of our worse players in the last 3 or 4 games he's played. From what I can remember Meninga was "on the button" most of the time scored 38 tries in the season, didn't carry any controversy and what stood out was how tough he was and very rarely dominated.'" He was top drawer, but it was 28 tries in the season not 38. www.saints.org.uk/saints/player.php?num=15983

Quote: Judder Man "I would say no, Ben Barba has probably been one of our worse players in the last 3 or 4 games he's played. From what I can remember Meninga was "on the button" most of the time scored 38 tries in the season, didn't carry any controversy and what stood out was how tough he was and very rarely dominated.'" He was top drawer, but it was 28 tries in the season not 38. www.saints.org.uk/saints/player.php?num=15983

Would place a fair few above Meninga as the best I have seen play for St Helens.

At the top of my list would be Karel Thomas van Vollenhoven.

To quote John McEnroe: Are you serious?