Why does a players past have anything to do with it, Kirmond was one of the stand out second rowers last season and for him not to even get a knights look in is a joke.
If London make the playoffs it will be from the bottom half of the table, i'm pretty confident about that.

Yep I think everyone tends toward their own clubs players a little because as you say you see them each week. I also think some (and I stress the word some) Wakefield fans have got a little carried away due to Wakefield making the playoffs last season. If I were a Wakefield fan I'd be far happier with what's happening off the field rather than on it. I don't think Wakefield will particularly improve that much on the field in the next few years and will be generally around the 9th or 10th position in the league. However they are making good progress off the field, which should bear fruit on the field in the future.

A bit like Alfie Langer at Wire who came over for a few pints and a knockaround in his 30's only to be recalled to win a SOO for Queensland.

But anyway I'm a Bronco so what would I know? You've got to follow a west Yorks team to be fully informed on the game- we understand

What else dont we know.

We fit in the category down here of being those that dont know they dont know

Yes I think some people think Tim Smith is the same player that played at Wigan, he isn't he's come along way both on & off the field since then and for someone to suggest that Smith isn't anywhere near the class of Gower, shows that they either didn't watch much of Smith play last year or rate the current version of Gower too highly.

You don't half talk some rubbish at times Smokey. We're superior to Widnes as a side too and I think our squad has much more experience than last year. I think we're very capable of making the 8. But, as usual, your anti-Cas bias continues.