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The gap between the top and bottom is already too big, if the cap was to be scraped then that gap would just get bigger and lesser clubs would struggle to compete. it wouldnt go back to the wigan winning everything days because there are more clubs with spending power but not enough for a remotely competitive league.

I see no problem with back weighted contracts in anyway, you cant have everybody on them because at some point too many people will be earning too much and they will break the cap, its the more 'dodgy' methods I have a problem with (wives in the club shop, players registered to other businesses, off shore accounts etc).

Also Andy Farrell was coming to the end of his RL career when he left for union and Chris Ashton was very average in League. Kyle Eastmond could have been the next Gary Schofield had he stayed.

Until RL increases its profile country wide, especially down south and we sellout the CCF and playoff games with people paying decent money in the process not cheap/free tickets, we will always struggle unless of course each club has a rich backer in which case the cap could rise like Wire (i dont think they have a cap anyway), Leeds, Hull, Wigan etc.

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Remember when Hull FC won all 26 league games in 78/79 and won promotion? - Their backers spent big on Knocker Norton, Sammy Lloyd etc. Remember Ernie Clay at Fulham spending big on a top team around Reggie Bowden and won promotion in their first year 1980/81?

I know there are still serious potential financial backers out there. With serious money to spend and with the clear understanding that you don't put money into sport to make a profit. I know one who is really enthused having found Rugby League (a bit like Bradley Wiggins has described is own experience).

What such a backer wants is to start a new club probably based on a big RU club - so the infrastructure is there along with a hard core potential existing support to build on. What they want above all is to have a winning team from the off. They would be happy to enter the league at Championship 1 level. They want to know they can 'buy a team that will the league' and earn promotion. Then add higher level players and do the same again the next season and then aim to win promotion to super league.

In the first two years, if all goes to plan, yes - the competion will be uneven if they do win every match - but it's a big pay day for home clubs when the new club plays away and takes supporters to swell the crowd. There's nothing like winning every match to get a new club off the ground - even if initailly at Championship 1 level.

These financial backers who could spread the game to new areas by creating new clubs backed by big money won't emerge though until the stucture of the game in this country is changed. Why?

The Salary Cap and no automatic promotion and relegation between the leagues means they have no chance of doing a Hull or a Fulham. So they don't bother. They don't want their success or failure to be decided by a handful of officials in a room at Red Hall, Leeds.

It is well known that the structure for RL in this country that I advocate includes scrapping the salary cap and having automatic one-up, one-down promotion and relegation between the leagues. I don't really want to get into details until/unless the high level structure is changed. But in terms of who gets promoted - how about a club only getting promoted if it both finishes top of the league AND wins the play-offs Grand Final in the same season?

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Quote: Wooden Stand " I know there are still serious potential financial backers out there. With serious money to spend and with the clear understanding that you don't put money into sport to make a profit. I know one who is really enthused having found Rugby League (a bit like Bradley Wiggins has described is own experience).

What such a backer wants is to start a new club probably based on a big RU club - so the infrastructure is there along with a hard core potential existing support to build on. What they want above all is to have a winning team from the off. They would be happy to enter the league at Championship 1 level. They want to know they can 'buy a team that will the league' and earn promotion. Then add higher level players and do the same again the next season and then aim to win promotion to super league.

In the first two years, if all goes to plan, yes - the competion will be uneven if they do win every match - but it's a big pay day for home clubs when the new club plays away and takes supporters to swell the crowd. There's nothing like winning every match to get a new club off the ground - even if initailly at Championship 1 level.

These financial backers who could spread the game to new areas by creating new clubs backed by big money won't emerge though until the stucture of the game in this country is changed. Why?

The Salary Cap and no automatic promotion and relegation between the leagues means they have no chance of doing a Hull or a Fulham. So they don't bother. They don't want their success or failure to be decided by a handful of officials in a room at Red Hall, Leeds.'"


I think you just made that up. I doubt you have any contact with any potential backers.

It's quite different from my own experience of new clubs entering or not entering pro RL. Actual experience that is, not just something made up about massively wealthy individuals who want to buy their way to sporting success and are hiding in secret anonymity just waiting for the RFL to abandon the salary cap icon_lol.gif

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Scrapping the salary cap is needed (in conjunction with automatic one-up, one-down promotion and relegation betwen the leagues and penalties for insolvency events including relegation to the bottom league if a club goes into liquidation).

On the question of who goes up; concensus seems to favour the team finishing the season top of the league, rather than the grand final winner (or there could be a requirement to win both in the same season in order to win promotion).

Even where a club wins the right to promotion, it would be open to the directors of that club to opt to stay in the division they are in - in which case the bottom club in the league above would not need to be relegated.

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