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Quote: Wellsy13 "But as has been said, if a player drops the ball after being tackled it's a knock on. If he drops the ball before a tap restart, it isn't a knock on. A tackle isn't a stoppage in play, so a play the ball after a tackle isn't a restart in play it's a continuation.
If a player goes into touch after a tackle and before the play the ball, it should be a turnover IMO (unless the referee has stopped play), just like if a player drops the ball after the tackle and before the play the ball.'"


It is given as a knock-on as the player has dropped the ball and failed to bring the ball back into play in the prescribed manner. If this was a deliberate act then it would be a penalty for that offence but as it is accidental then the same as for a forward pass the scrum is given.

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Quote: shinymcshine "Why not try attending a match officials course then demonstrating to the world your perfect application of the rules, without any ambiguity or interpretation?'"

Who are you addressing here?

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Calm down, no-one in particular, just the average fan who holds an opinionated voice about the rules without ever reading them, and/or their interpretation without ever trying to apply them.

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Quote: shinymcshine "Calm down, no-one in particular, just the average fan who holds an opinionated voice about the rules without ever reading them, and/or their interpretation without ever trying to apply them.'"

I am calm, don't worry. I've taken the Match Officials course so I'm alright! icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Him "According to the laws, 11.10 "Regain feet (b) The tackled player shall without delay regain his feet where he was tackled, lift the ball clear of the ground, face his opponent’s goal line and drop or place the ball on the ground in front of his foremost foot."

So the laws still allow a player to drop the ball and in front of his front foot. Watch the old tapes and this was quite common. How come that without exception a referee in today's game will invariably award a knock-on?'"

Because the dropping of the ball in order to play it has to be a deliberate act and not accidental. If the player made a show of deliberately dropping the ball to play it then he should be allowed to continue. However if he's lost possession (ie accidentally dropped it) it should be given as a knock on.'"


But that's not what the law says, it makes no distinction between deliberate and accidental and a referee cannot determine intent.

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Quote: Sui Generis "But that's not what the law says, it makes no distinction between deliberate and accidental and a referee cannot determine intent.'"


Because a deliberate drop would have to be played immediately (backwards) by the foot. A player accidentally dropping the ball will not have time or presence of mind to do this so it invariably won't be a correct PTB anyway.

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