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I had a question about rules, so might as well post in here while you're all helpful
At what point after the tackle can the defenders start to advance? This year I've seen referees calling it differently, but if the defence are back 10 with the ref can they only start to advance once the player playing the ball has touched it with their foot or is it as soon as they are on their feet and start to attempt the play the ball?
Some referees I've watched seem to want to wait until the ball has been played at with the foot and is in the acting half's hands and call offside for moving early, others generally only blow for players that didn't bother getting back 10 at all and seem to let play continue if defenders start to run as the player bends to play the ball.
The rule book on the RFL site states only when the ball is clear of the ruck, but I haven't seen any team this season waiting for the ball to be passed or for the dummy half to start running to advance forward.
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| Quote: shinymcshine "Why not try attending a match officials course then demonstrating to the world your perfect application of the rules, without any ambiguity or interpretation?'"
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Calm down, no-one in particular, just the average fan who holds an opinionated voice about the rules without ever reading them, and/or their interpretation without ever trying to apply them.
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| Quote: shinymcshine "Calm down, no-one in particular, just the average fan who holds an opinionated voice about the rules without ever reading them, and/or their interpretation without ever trying to apply them.'"
I am calm, don't worry. I've taken the Match Officials course so I'm alright!  |
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| Quote: Him "Quote: Him "According to the laws, 11.10 "Regain feet (b) The tackled player shall without delay regain his feet where he was tackled, lift the ball clear of the ground, face his opponent’s goal line and drop or place the ball on the ground in front of his foremost foot."
So the laws still allow a player to drop the ball and in front of his front foot. Watch the old tapes and this was quite common. How come that without exception a referee in today's game will invariably award a knock-on?'"
Because the dropping of the ball in order to play it has to be a deliberate act and not accidental. If the player made a show of deliberately dropping the ball to play it then he should be allowed to continue. However if he's lost possession (ie accidentally dropped it) it should be given as a knock on.'"
But that's not what the law says, it makes no distinction between deliberate and accidental and a referee cannot determine intent. |
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| Quote: Sui Generis "But that's not what the law says, it makes no distinction between deliberate and accidental and a referee cannot determine intent.'"
Because a deliberate drop would have to be played immediately (backwards) by the foot. A player accidentally dropping the ball will not have time or presence of mind to do this so it invariably won't be a correct PTB anyway. |
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