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Quote: Saddened! "I have no faith in them to do what the sport needs. They are simply not experienced enough or competent enough commercially to bring the growth and development the sport requires.

They will maintain Super League and RL in general, keeping it ticking over. The two biggest deals for the RFL are the Sky TV deal and the competition sponsorship deal. They have failed to secure a meaningful Sky deal and the most recent one was absolutely awful. Given the disparity in viewing figures, the TV deal should generate far more than what Union get, yet we don't. Then you throw in the sponsorship deal with Stobart, which is an absolute disaster. I'm convinced Stobart made the offer as a joke because they didn't want to pay for it and the RFL bit as no other companies were interested. To generate £0 from a competition sponsorship deal is just comically bad business. To put it into perspective Aviva paid £20m over 4 years to sponsor Union's Premiership and Heineken have paid £10m per season to sponsor their Cup competition.

Then we could start on the franchise process. It was needless and weak from the start and was a complete farce with no clubs being cut from Super League and the one added not worthy of a spot anyway. The process let Bradford into Super League and London, who are getting crowds of 2,000 and seem to be receiving no help in improving that or any threat of punishment if they do not.

Then we could start on the Crusaders farce, but I can't be bothered, we all know what happened there.

In summary, the RFL will probably maintain SL for the next 10 years, losing a team every couple of seasons. They will not develop or improve the sport in the way it deserves under this administration.'"


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Quote: Wellsy13 "Why go back? Because you're talking like Lewis has taken the game backwards, which is a complete and utter lie.

Lewis has been the best administrator of our game in my lifetime and seen the game through its healthiest ever period. Who has done a better job?'"


Lewis and Wood in my opinion have stagnated the game and we need better more profession able people on board.
I agree with Saddened that the situation is precarious, if all the backers who bankroll the clubs pull out then we would probably end up a Superleague of 3 (Leeds, Wigan and Hull) back to the pre Lewis days of an uncompetitive Superleague.
Lewis and Wood have failed on the franchise system, have failed on reducing the overseas quota to produce home grown talent, have failed on referring standards, have failed on expanding the professional game nationally, have failed on sponsorship to raise the profile of our sport.
Who would have thought it we advertise our game on the side of "some" Stobart lorries outside the public window, can compete with a team of 10 overseas players, showcase our game expansion weekend in Manchester.

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Quote: Judder Man "Lewis and Wood in my opinion have stagnated the game and we need better more profession able people on board.'"

So since they came on board, there has been no development of progression at all? Really?
Quote: Judder Man "I agree with Saddened that the situation is precarious, if all the backers who bankroll the clubs pull out then we would probably end up a Superleague of 3 (Leeds, Wigan and Hull) back to the pre Lewis days of an uncompetitive Superleague.'"

Why is that Lewis and Wood's faults? It's the same in any pro sport. You're just picking anything now. If anything, it's good that the sport is in a place to attract such investors.
Quote: Judder Man "Lewis and Wood have failed on the franchise system, have failed on reducing the overseas quota to produce home grown talent, have failed on referring standards, have failed on expanding the professional game nationally, have failed on sponsorship to raise the profile of our sport.
Who would have thought it we advertise our game on the side of "some" Stobart lorries outside the public window, can compete with a team of 10 overseas players, showcase our game expansion weekend in Manchester.'"

So they've failed on a franchise system that has forced clubs to improve standards? They've failed to reduce the overseas quota despite putting a new system in place that will eventually get us around the Kolpak ruling (that effectively meant it was unlimited before) once all the exceptions have retired (can't break the law can we). There are more players eligible and being talked about for international honours now than ever. There are three additional semi-pro clubs with four more to come. They have successfully expanded into Europe professionally (only administration to do this).

But yeah, the game hasn't moved since they came in. In fact it's gone backwards icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Saint Simon "Rugby League is a great product and has the sky viewing figures to prove this. A good question is do the RFL make the most of this?

I think they score about 3/10 for this.

It pains me to say this, but just look how the wigan club market games, the first TV advert for a game, "the big one" has more coverage to most people than the magic weekend does!'"

Why is it do difficult for some people to understand that viewing figures aren't the be-all and end-all of TV deals and sponsorship?

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I have far more faith in Richard Lewis and the other board members than I do with Saddened and some of the flat-cappers that would have us return to "the glory years".

As for media savvy, Maurice Watkins (RFL board member) is also a director of Manchester United, among others and was heavily involved in the launch of MUTV, so please don't think the board of the RFL didn't have the expertise to secure the best deal available.

In 2003, there were reports in the press about the then top five clubs breaking away from Superleague and forming their own league, following the same press reporting that the RFL were about to be shafted by Sky. The RFL board came back from the negotiations with an improved deal. There was a long thread on this very board about the deal and IIRC the vast majority of the more lucid contributors had faith in the RFL to secure a deal to benefit the game as a whole. Fath that was ultimately rewarded.

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