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Quote: af "Not so daft. Soccer uses an effective half goal for the side that scored the most away goals, cricket similar with the Ashes - Strauss's side only had to match Australia to keep the trophy, thanks to the achievements of Vaughan and a number of different players. If this is such a daft idea, we'd be seeing better arguments against it. Only one I can see is that too many fans will irrationally hate it because they're Luddites.
The difference is football only uses away goals for a tie over 2 legs when there has to be a winner because it's a knockout competition. Regular league matches never have this condition to them. I mean I can't remember Spurs beating nal a couple of weeks ago because in the fixture before they scored more. They got a draw. you know, that thing you're trying to make out that football doesn't have?!

For knockout competitions where football would use the away goal or extra time rules Rugby League already use the golden point so there are no draws. Just look at the challenge cup matches and play off games. For matches in the league football has draws. just like we do in rugby league. How are you not getting that there are differences in the competitions and Rugby League already have golden point which is used in the same circumstances that football would bring in those daft away goal rules etc?

And in cricket that was in a test series. Rugby league already have this. hence why when we drew the series with the Kiwis not too many years ago we actually got the trophy, because NZ actually had to beat us to take it rather than drawing the series

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I don't see any reason to get rid of draws myself. Not sure how 3 point conversions would effect anything. Would teams simply draw with a higher scoreline?'"

I mean three point conversions for something more difficult to a standard conversion. So the scoring side would have the option of taking the three point or two point conversion.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "I mean three point conversions for something more difficult to a standard conversion. So the scoring side would have the option of taking the three point or two point conversion.'"

So like, if a team scores to make it 22-24, they could opt for a 3 point "difficult" conversion to avoid the draw and win 25-24? Sounds interesting, but would it detract from the spectacle of a closely fought draw in which each team desperately tries to score again in the dying minutes? those nerve racking, edge of your seat closers are great for fans and neutrals alike, imo. Settling that with a conversion--albeit a diffcult one--just wouldn't be the same. Out of interest, how would you make the conversion difficult? I'm imagining Aussie rules style outer and inner posts.

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Quote: TheElectricGlidingWarrior "So like, if a team scores to make it 22-24, they could opt for a 3 point "difficult" conversion to avoid the draw and win 25-24? Sounds interesting, but would it detract from the spectacle of a closely fought draw in which each team desperately tries to score again in the dying minutes? those nerve racking, edge of your seat closers are great for fans and neutrals alike, imo. Settling that with a conversion--albeit a diffcult one--just wouldn't be the same. Out of interest, how would you make the conversion difficult? I'm imagining Aussie rules style outer and inner posts.'"

Yes so they would have the opportunity between taking the safer option of a more likely kick for 2 which would draw the game, or a more difficult 3 point kick which could win the game, but alternatively could lose it.

I think you would get that same nerve racking closers, with the added interest of the decision to be made, and its execution. Can you imagine in the 4 nations final, England being 6 points behind Australia, going over for the four and Peacock and Sinfield having to decide whether to go for the win with a difficult 3 point conversion or take the draw and go to golden point with the two point kick? I think that would be a great spectacle.

Similarly, a team putting itself 4 points ahead with 4/5mins to go would need to make the decision whether to go for the 3 points and guarantee at the very least a draw almost certainly the win or the 2 and risk the loss.

Two ideas for the three point conversion, a ten yard one tackle play ala the all stars game in Australia or a kick lined up the same as now, but kicked from behind the half way line.

inner/outer posts would be interesting but I am always loathed to add more equipment to the game.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "Yes so they would have the opportunity between taking the safer option of a more likely kick for 2 which would draw the game, or a more difficult 3 point kick which could win the game, but alternatively could lose it.

I think you would get that same nerve racking closers, with the added interest of the decision to be made, and its execution. Can you imagine in the 4 nations final, England being 6 points behind Australia, going over for the four and Peacock and Sinfield having to decide whether to go for the win with a difficult 3 point conversion or take the draw and go to golden point with the two point kick? I think that would be a great spectacle.

Similarly, a team putting itself 4 points ahead with 4/5mins to go would need to make the decision whether to go for the 3 points and guarantee at the very least a draw almost certainly the win or the 2 and risk the loss.

Two ideas for the three point conversion, a ten yard one tackle play ala the all stars game in Australia or a kick lined up the same as now, but kicked from behind the half way line.

inner/outer posts would be interesting but I am always loathed to add more equipment to the game.'"

Hmm. Ok, let me say at this point I'm not entirely against it. Kicking from halfway is an interesting point, and would certainly make it difficult, but I was thinking more along the lines of encouraging pin-point accuracy, like a narrow target that would leave you with a 1-2 degree margin of error.

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Quote: TheElectricGlidingWarrior "Hmm. Ok, let me say at this point I'm not entirely against it. Kicking from halfway is an interesting point, and would certainly make it difficult, but I was thinking more along the lines of encouraging pin-point accuracy, like a narrow target that would leave you with a 1-2 degree margin of error.'"

It would, as I said the only problem I have with inner/outer posts is it is another piece of equipment which, lets face it, would be used pretty rarely.

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