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| Quote: number 6 "could see something like this
group1 aus, nz, eng, fra
group2 wales, scotland, ireland, russia, lebanon
group3 fiji tonga samoa png usa
top 3 group 1 straight to semi finals
winners of group 2 and 3 play off to make 4th semi finalist'"
10 countries playing for 1 semi-final place? God I hope not!! |
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| Quote: Bovrick "Oh well, I only looked at the format (7 rounds) and presumed. I don't watch it anyway it bores me to death ![]()
Just checked the format for the union world cup on Wikipedia. Says 44 days (7th September - 20th October), so 6 weeks (7 weekends). The difference between their World Cup and the football and RL ones is that they run theirs through the domestic season. The Guiness Premiership is still running during their World Cup, something I very much doubt would happen in SL.
And my format did have 6 rounds yes, and it probably would have to have one mid-week game. The last two World Cups both had 1 round that was mid-week, just something I think is a bit inevitable. But one is an absolute maximum.
I still don't get how you've managed to make it last 8 weeks with 14 teams anyway. Surely 2-3 group games, quarters, semis then final makes 6 rounds? Why the unneeded play-off format at the end? Just makes it longer than it needs to be, and longer than we can afford.
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The main thing I don't like about this 14 team idea is that it is going to leave is with groups of 3 and the unfair advantages/disadvantages the teams in them groups will face.
Perhaps one option is to have the teams in one group of 3 play the teams in the other group of 3 instead of their own?
e.g. (seedings in brackets)
Group A - England (1), Fiji (2), Lebanon (3)
Group B - Australia (1), Tonga (2), Ireland (3)
Group C - New Zeland (1), Wales (2), Scotland (3), Cook Islands (4)
Group D - Papua New Guinea (1), France (2), Samoa (3), USA (4)
So England won't play Fiji and Lebanon, they'd play Australia, Tonga and Ireland.
And Australia will play England, Fiji and Lebanon.
Group C and D as normal.
This allows us to seperate the big teams then, yet still have that all-important Aus vs England game to start the tournament.
No fangled Super Groups. And one hell of a lot easier to understand for the public.
3 group games, top two from each to quarters.
I think that's the best format possible if keeping it simple is the aim. And certainly the fairest with 14 teams.
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why not seed it then draw it from a hat
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| Quote: Dico "why not seed it then draw it from a hat'"
That would also make it fairer. The teams I've put in are just examples, but the main emphasis was meant on the seeding process.
I don't think they'll draw teams out of a hat though. They'll want to make as attractive fixtures as possible IMO so will most likely group them in a certain way. |
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| Quote: Wellsy13 "I still don't get how you've managed to make it last 8 weeks with 14 teams anyway. Surely 2-3 group games, quarters, semis then final makes 6 rounds? Why the unneeded play-off format at the end? Just makes it longer than it needs to be, and longer than we can afford.'"
Because there was no fair way of getting striaght into quarters that I could think of.
I am all up for giving the better teams an easier run, but not at the expense of the lower teams, who could potentially pull a shocker and wanted to accomadate for that. Unless I suppose you draw randomly into 2 groups of 3 and 4 and the top two of either group goes straight through, there is a massive bias towards the top teams in the ones I have read. In mine I think if the best teams were all from the minor groups (unlikely I know) then the top four would end up coming from these groups, whereas in others only those from the top groups and a couple from the others get a shot. |
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