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Quote: SmokeyTA "i havent argued any different, by growing the amateur game London is providing us with more potential playing talent, and actually playing talent.

Quins are bringing in more playing talent, the likes of Clubb and LMS wouldnt be playing the game if it wasnt for the hardwork in youth development done down there.

Thats not to ignore quins attendance issue, Nor is it to say that the attendance issue isnt important or linked to everything else as part of the London RL package just to argue it isnt the defining aspect of the game in London.'"



That's all right then , wouldn't want you changing ' tack ' so to speak icon_wink.gif icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: SmokeyTA "Which shows the limited potential of heartland clubs. Leeds are much more successful because they had the potential, they then got someone able to harness it.'"


Limited potential of *some* heartlands clubs but potential is often all "expansion" clubs have. You can't bank potential, you have to be able to deliver.

Quote: SmokeyTA "It isnt 'a massive' coincidence, there is barely any correlation.
who cares? Attracting other fans is a good thing. Building on the attachment people have to the city is a good thing. Its what all places should be doing'"


So you are arguing that it is not true but isn't it great?

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thats because there is no such thing. It is currently the Hub of rugby league in this country, no doubt that will eventually change but there is no need to bring down just how successful the game is here to excuse whats happening elsewhere.'"


"Bring down". I hardly think it is bringing down Leeds to point out that the likes of Cas and Wakey do very well to get attendences and teams that are remotely comparable to a big city club and don't deserve the level of criticism they get in some quarters.

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Quote: Saddened! "Talking of the Crusaders I've read this week about the positivity of the ticket sales for the game against Weeds Whinos. My question is which genius at the RFL/Super League decided Leeds would be a good opposition for the new franchise? They will be down by 30 at half time and lose by 60+. I don't reckon any more than a handful of those first timers will ever consider going again. A better game would have been one they had a chance of being competitive in.'"
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We didn't lose by 60+ points for our first game of the season last year and that was away against Leeds eusa_think.gif

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Quote: celticcrusader "We didn't lose by 60+ points for our first game of the season last year and that was away against Leeds

Under ' orders ' icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Hedgehog King "Limited potential of *some* heartlands clubs but potential is often all "expansion" clubs have. You can't bank potential, you have to be able to deliver.'"
you cant bank what *some* of the heartland teams are doing either, you cant take losing tons of money in a decrepit stadium to the bank either.

Plus standing still will kill the game, it may do it slower but its guaranteed to do it. If we go with what has potential the game me still die, if we dont it definitely will


Quote: Hedgehog King "So you are arguing that it is not true but isn't it great?'"
no im arguing that there is no reason for a person not to be a fan of two sports. Who's to say that the fans who are more recent ones were formerly Utd fans? Who's to say the Utd fans you see at a rhinos game werent already rhinos fans? Marching on together has been sung at rhinos games since i was a kid. Christ its sung at YCC games.

The idea that Rhinos crowds are correlated to Utd is nonsense, the growth started in a VERY strong period for Utd and continued long after that had ended.
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"Bring down". I hardly think it is bringing down Leeds to point out that the likes of Cas and Wakey do very well to get attendences and teams that are remotely comparable to a big city club and don't deserve the level of criticism they get in some quarters.'"


If they dont want to be judged by the same standards as leeds, then they shouldnt compete with Leeds. These clubs arent new, they dont have reasons for low crowds they have excuses. If as you say they have done well to get the crowds they get then the top level just isnt for them. If the some total of their years of existence is 1/2 to a 1/3rd of the attendance of other clubs despite being based in the heartlands then they arent 'elite' clubs. Whether you want to put that down to incompetence at their top level or intrinsic limits in their potential it doesnt matter.

And you are bringing down leeds success. For some reason you feel the need to make excuses for it. The game is a success in this city because the club are very well run. For a long time the club wasnt and it wasnt close to successful. We should celebrate what has been achieved by the game here. Not try and excuse it so others don't feel bad.

There is no reason why a Wakefield club cannot unite the district and compete with Leeds as equals other than those running the clubs not having the talent to do it.

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