Quote: chubbs1981 "nothing. throwing the ball away would be silly cos its a deliberate knock on. however something needs to be done asap. the crusaders game on sat one of the guys was face down on the deck. the ball carrying arm was pulled behind his back so the ball was bascially on the back of his ribs. he still had controll and as the tackler got up he hit the ball with his knee which was forced torwards the tackled players head. there is no way you can retain control in that situation ast the joints of the arm are below the ball.
results knock on given. that is not a knock on. with regards to what i said it would put the advantage back on the ball carrier atm the advantage is firmly on the defending team'"
if he cant keep hold of it, its a loose carry. if it goes ofrward, its a knock-on.
If a player cant control possession he doesn't deserve it, hence a knock-one and t'other side getting possession. I saw the bit you were talking about - he never had full control of it in the first place, if he did a loose knee wouldn't have dislodged it. The call was the right one IMHO.
It's difficult to call either way and there will never be a failsafe rule, a magic law which is introduced to remove this from the game. We just have to get on and hope the refs get it right most of the time.
As long as we have players who are ready to risk a penalty and attempt to reef the ball out, we'll have this problem. As long as we have players who lose possession (not saying deliberately, their only human after all!), we'll have this problem.
