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When do we get hit with this?

I just ask because it seems like no news source which hosts league tables don't seem to have factored it in.

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Has this been forgotten about? Has some sort of deal been done? Or can none of these media outlets be bothered to set up their tables to include the deduction? icon_biggrin.gif

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The latter.

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Strange, it's not that difficult to change a spreadsheet and neither is the situation that uncommon.

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Quote: Bulliac "Strange, it's not that difficult to change a spreadsheet and neither is the situation that uncommon.'"





It must be because some of the sites' tables upto last year, still had the bonus point column.

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Don't worry, they won't forget.
We will get to have a little star by our name too.

*Bradford Bulls

*deducted 12 points because another company who have nothing to do with this one at all, no connection, not a thing, went into administration. We have to blame someone so we are blaming the fans and loyal players of this one.

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Quote: debaser "Don't worry, they won't forget.
We will get to have a little star by our name too.

*Bradford Bulls

*deducted 12 points because another company who have nothing to do with this one at all, no connection, not a thing, went into administration. We have to blame someone so we are blaming the fans and loyal players of this one.'"




Exactly this

It's like buying a second hand car and the previous owner had 9 penalty points on their licence and they carry over into your licence when you become the new owner. Disgrace

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Quote: roger daly "Exactly this

It's like buying a second hand car and the previous owner had 9 penalty points on their licence and they carry over into your licence when you become the new owner. Disgrace'"

However, if you buy a second hand car in good faith and it turns out to be stolen you lose it. AS stated on a different thread the 12 point deduction was announced becasue we had such a strong squad at the time it was announced. It did not take into account that we were subsequently liquidated and then lost our whole squad, coaching staff and backroom staff. So if we put both analogies together we not only got the 9 points that the previous owner had incurred but we have also had to give him the car back again.

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Mmm, seems almost fair when you put it like that.

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Quote: rugbyreddog "However, if you buy a second hand car in good faith and it turns out to be stolen you lose it. AS stated on a different thread the 12 point deduction was announced becasue we had such a strong squad at the time it was announced. It did not take into account that we were subsequently liquidated and then lost our whole squad, coaching staff and backroom staff. So if we put both analogies together we not only got the 9 points that the previous owner had incurred but we have also had to give him the car back again.'"


You forgot to include the fact that we only got this special treatment because we are their "favourites".

What I want to know is - what would have ben the penalty if we had not been their favourites?

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Well after round 1, we're not bottom of our league (unless you take the unfair 12 point deduction into account) - maybe thats the HUGE announcement - RFL realise they have messed up and agree that the new Bulls club (because we are their favourites) should get 0 points deduction.

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Weird tweet from Martyn Sadler:

"Earlier tonight someone phoned us and told us the RFL had restored @OfficialBullsRL's 12-points deduction. Why?"

What's that all about?

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Quote: debaser "Weird tweet from Martyn Sadler
I think you're misunderstanding, somebody assumed it had been restored because none of the league tables were showing it. Unfortunately it hasn't been restored.

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How come all the other RFL members started on zero?

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