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| Theres and interesting comment from guilfoyle in latest report on sporting life.
Quote: Any purchaser is taking a chance on whether the club will be continuing in the Super League or playing in the Championship next season.
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Given salary cap is only 300k in Championship, does that imply we'd be given a cap dispensation for any of our under contract players who either can't find another SL club or choose to stick with us?. I was under impression all SL contracts became void if a club drops down to championship.
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| I was thinking this the other day. Would we become a rugby version of Portsmouth FC and be stuck with unwanted players on sky high wages? I wouldn't say we would be left with 20 players but could see 5 or 6 who would either be unwanted by other clubs or would not move on due to their wages.
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| Didn't Wigan get a dispensation a few years ago?
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| You must remember that players are on Super League contracts, if a club gets relegated to the Championship then all contracts are null and void and need re-negotiating to achieve the lower salery cap. This is what we at Cas had to achieve following our two relegations from SL.
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| Quote: mat "Theres and interesting comment from guilfoyle in latest report on sporting life.
Given salary cap is only 300k in Championship, does that imply we'd be given a cap dispensation for any of our under contract players who either can't find another SL club or choose to stick with us?. I was under impression all SL contracts became void if a club drops down to championship.'"
They do become void if the appropriate clause is inserted into the contracts. However if some dummies forget to put the clause in the contract then the owner will still have to pay SL salaries in the championship.
No dispensation just cr*p management?
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| Quote: Cripesginger "They do become void if the appropriate clause is inserted into the contracts. However if some dummies forget to put the clause in the contract then the owner will still have to pay SL salaries in the championship.
Don't be ridiculous. In a franchised league with no promotion or relegation, why would they insert clauses about being relegated??
This sounds like ignorance from Guilfoyle. If we were given cap dispensation the other clubs would be apoplectic with rage, and rightly so. In any case, there's no way that 20 players are going to hang around if we went into the Championship. It would be a handful at best
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| Quote: paulwalker71 "Don't be ridiculous. In a franchised league with no promotion or relegation, why would they insert clauses about being relegated??
This sounds like ignorance from Guilfoyle. If we were given cap dispensation the other clubs would be apoplectic with rage, and rightly so. In any case, there's no way that 20 players are going to hang around if we went into the Championship. It would be a handful at best'"
Why would it be a handful at best. With promotion and relegation likely to be introduced at the end of 2013 they could easily be back in super league after a year away.
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| Quote: paulwalker71 "Don't be ridiculous. In a franchised league with no promotion or relegation, why would they insert clauses about being relegated??
This sounds like ignorance from Guilfoyle. If we were given cap dispensation the other clubs would be apoplectic with rage, and rightly so. In any case, there's no way that 20 players are going to hang around if we went into the Championship. It would be a handful at best'"
Because there's the RFL's option to remove a club's franchise. Therefore I'd imagine that all SL players contracts have a nullification clause should that happen.
If not, then the RFL would have to offer dispensation to the club or would be in a position to force a club to break the RFL's own rules. Which would likely mean an end to the salary cap all together as it IS a restrictment of trade and only allowed to exist due to a gentlemen's agreement between all clubs. Which would mean SL becomes even more lop sided as the clubs with the rich owners throw money at all the best players leaving the scraps for the rest of the league and we end up in a situation like we had in the 80's where only 1 club wins anything.
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| These clauses are inserted "paulwalker" what if a certain player signs a 5 year contract but the club fail to acquire a franchise?
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| It implies that Guilfoyle doesn't know what he's talking about, or else is throwing out another perceived obstacle for a non-preferred bidder to become interested in the club.
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| Quote: dannynaughton "These clauses are inserted "paulwalker" what if a certain player signs a 5 year contract but the club fail to acquire a franchise?'"
Doesn't mean the club put one in peoples contracts, after all we achieved a b license in the last round, what was to make them think they'd ever be in a position of being relegated.
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| Well it's in my brothers contract in the academy so it's pretty safe to say it will be through all squads.
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| The same can be said for a few first grade players who I am personal friends with.
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| Quote: dannynaughton "The same can be said for a few first grade players who I am personal friends with.'"
Strange as that contradicts what BullBuilder has been told.
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| Oh if it contradicts what the almighty bullbuilder has been told, they must be lying about their contractual agreements. :/
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