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| Quote: FLYINGPROP "When you drag my clubs name thru the mud it becomes my business. The Giants or anyone associated with them had nothing to do with the poop you are in, about time all Bulls fans realised this and stopped trying to pass the blame off. You may well bounce back so stick with your club and focus on them rather than looking to blame others.'"
Past your bedtime.
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| Quote: Rarebreed "Past your bedtime.'"
translated to answer to everything when dont get the answer you want to hear. night
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| Quote: FLYINGPROP "When you drag my clubs name thru the mud it becomes my business. The Giants or anyone associated with them had nothing to do with the poop you are in, about time all Bulls fans realised this and stopped trying to pass the blame off. You may well bounce back so stick with your club and focus on them rather than looking to blame others.'"
There you go again, who's blamed you? Every other SL club took £100k of our central distribution share, so what makes you special? Yes we know about the Kop situation, so don't feel guilty about that. You may have paid us a token amount, due to embarrassment, but don't think anymore about it.
As for dragging your clubs name through the mud, can we also leave that to you. I can't remember anyone having a go at the Giants, you personally perhaps, but you lead with your chin, don't you?
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| Quote: FLYINGPROP "Gentlemans agreement blah blah blah, illegal approach blah blah blah. Why does it always revert back to the Giants when someone mentions relegation or court case or points reduction. Was there a gentlemans agreement to pay all the creditors back were/are owed money by the Bradford Bulls? Then there's the OK Bulls shambles. The people responsible for the poop you are in are much much closer to home than Koppy or Ken Davey or the Huddersfield Giants. Its about time the Bulls fans actually accepted that Bradford Bulls or whichever name they are trading under nowadays are the ones resposible for the mess they are in and the buck stops firmly with them!!!'"
Your club illegally terminated a player's contract so that they could open enough salary cap space to allow them to illegally approach one of our players.
That's solid fact and you attempting to take the moral high ground against Bradford just makes you look incredibly stupid.
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| Quote: roofaldo2 "Your club illegally terminated a player's contract so that they could open enough salary cap space to allow them to illegally approach one of our players.
That's solid fact and you attempting to take the moral high ground against Bradford just makes you look incredibly stupid.'"
Terminated players contract yup, paid for it in court but didnt bring Bradford into it or try pass the blame to anyone else unlike other clubs!! Illegal approach nah a gentlemans agreement doesnt constitute an illegal approach in my eyes anyway. Now wheredo we start with the Bulls a club who have done no wrong? broke salary cap when winning trophies? left creditors out of pocket by winding up the company and taking new name? twice!!!! Cant say the debts die with the old club but all the assets transfer. Firms would do it weekly
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| Quote: Rarebreed "There you go again, who's blamed you? Every other SL club took £100k of our central distribution share, so what makes you special? Yes we know about the Kop situation, so don't feel guilty about that. You may have paid us a token amount, due to embarrassment, but don't think anymore about it.
As for dragging your clubs name through the mud, can we also leave that to you. I can't remember anyone having a go at the Giants, you personally perhaps, but you lead with your chin, don't you?'"
Maybe you need to have a read thru your forum if you think your fans havent dissed the Giants!!
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| Quote: FLYINGPROP "Maybe you need to have a read thru your forum if you think your fans havent dissed the Giants!!'"
Oh my god grow up!! I've a lot of time for Huddersfield and their fans, but people like you are just pathetic and an embarrassment to the club.
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| Quote: FLYINGPROP "Terminated players contract yup, paid for it in court but didnt bring Bradford into it or try pass the blame to anyone else unlike other clubs!! Illegal approach nah a gentlemans agreement doesnt constitute an illegal approach in my eyes anyway. Now wheredo we start with the Bulls a club who have done no wrong? broke salary cap when winning trophies? left creditors out of pocket by winding up the company and taking new name? twice!!!! Cant say the debts die with the old club but all the assets transfer. Firms would do it weekly'"
Actually, firms do do it weekly and there is a whole raft of insolvency laws set up just for the purpose. There are also lots of receivers and administrators who make a good living out of..ermm well, administering it. These people don't just pop up when a rugby club hits the buffers you know, it's their regular five days a week, full time job.
Incidentally the illegal approach was admitted by Hudds, in court, and under oath during the Keith Mason's case against the Giants. When Kopczac's signing was used, by Mason, the date of it, given under oath, was well before the one that Hudds gave the RFL in their 'inquiry' and well before his contract at Bradford became susceptible to the TUPE regulations. Why they felt unable to give the same date to the RFL is obviously open to speculation, since the RFL seems to have turned a blind eye to this well publicised discrepancy.
However, let's draw a line under it, it's all water under the bridge now and as my old [and long dead] grandfather always used to say, "there are worse things happen at sea". Good luck for the play-offs.
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| Anyway, appeal now officially called off.
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Line drawn.
Ha! Fat chance
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Anyway, appeal now officially called off.
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Ha! Fat chance'"
Genuine question. In the interview I have read it was stated they thought they had a really strong case, but they have dropped it as not wanting to spend money on the past (I am paraphrasing) I always thought if the bulls had won then costs would have been paid by RFL?
Is that correct
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| Quote: Ferdy "Genuine question. In the interview I have read it was stated they thought they had a really strong case, but they have dropped it as not wanting to spend money on the past (I am paraphrasing) I always thought if the bulls had won then costs would have been paid by RFL?
Is that correct'"
Basically, yes, although usually it won't cover all the actual costs, by some margin.
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Basically, yes, although usually it won't cover all the actual costs, by some margin.'"
Thanks that clears it up. I was thinking that they didn't have a case at all as if the other side pay the costs they might as well have gone for it. But that makes sense no point being out of pocket when the money could be used for next year.
Would be interested to know what grounds they were going for in the appeal. States the initial appeal was through flawed RFL policy and the second was legally incorrect?
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| Apparently we are going to use the money to appeal the decision on the Joynt tackle
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| Amen,
Can we talk about something else now.
Anyway good luck next yeaqr and I hope you come straight back up.
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