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| Quote ="redeverready"Who would buy O'Brien though super league sides had chance of getting him for nothing but none wanted to take that option.'"
Seem to remember Leeds being keen. Difference then was Adam wanted to remain at club and club wanted to keep him, so he signed a new deal. Think there be takers if he was available and he may want out if he sees his potential gametime being limited under smith.
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| He has been our best and most consistent player for two years now. What team leaves out their best player/first choice hooker, regardless of the game? Roby is a small player but would Saints leave him out? So what if he's not a massive bloke, he tackles four times his weight anyway. Yes we might still have lost but he would've put up more of a fight then a)an out of position Addy who has signed for Hull KR and has been poor for weeks and B)a stop-gap loanee snail from Warrington who was brought in to cover an injury.
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| Quote ="Drust"He has been our best and most consistent player for two years now. What team leaves out their best player/first choice hooker, regardless of the game? Roby is a small player but would Saints leave him out? So what if he's not a massive bloke, he tackles four times his weight anyway. Yes we might still have lost but he would've put up more of a fight then a)an out of position Addy who has signed for Hull KR and has been poor for weeks and B)a stop-gap loanee snail from Warrington who was brought in to cover an injury.'"
Howarth is from Wakefield. But the point remains, as well as adding that Howarth seems so slow that the referee may as well not bother taking the defence back 10, as they make it up again by the time the ball hits the receiver anyway.
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| Quote ="mat"Seem to remember Leeds being keen. Difference then was Adam wanted to remain at club and club wanted to keep him, so he signed a new deal. Think there be takers if he was available and he may want out if he sees his potential gametime being limited under smith.'"
I said it at the time, he would have ended up at Fax if they could have sorted the contract out but struggled to offload players to free up money. I know most Bulls fans probably are struggling to face facts and I too wouldnt believe a player you think is good enough for SL could be lost to a rival but thats just an indication of where the Bulls are at the minute.
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"I said it at the time, he would have ended up at Fax if they could have sorted the contract out but struggled to offload players to free up money. I know most Bulls fans probably are struggling to face facts and I too wouldnt believe a player you think is good enough for SL could be lost to a rival but thats just an indication of where the Bulls are at the minute.'"
No he wasn't.
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"I said it at the time'"
And the responses you got then, i.e he's a full time player with intentions of staying full time, hold true now. That's not about Bradford or Halifax, that's about him and his conception of his own career.
Do try harder.
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"I said it at the time, he would have ended up at Fax if they could have sorted the contract out but struggled to offload players to free up money. I know most Bulls fans probably are struggling to face facts and I too wouldnt believe a player you think is good enough for SL could be lost to a rival but thats just an indication of where the Bulls are at the minute.'"
Sorry, but if Gaskell and Addy can get SL contracts I would find it hard to believe OB couldn't.
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| And the responses are going to be just as funny this time around. Never ceases to amaze me just how out of touch with reality some Bulls fans still are.
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"And the responses are going to be just as funny this time around. Never ceases to amaze me just how out of touch with reality some Bulls fans still are.'"
With the specifics of the player's already stated goals? At the risk of encouraging you into making a lie of your previous claims that you're not on the wind up, which bit did I get wrong?
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| The conversation probably went something like:
Halifax - "Adam, are you available"
Adam - "I dunno, what can you offer? I need full time as a minimum and a raise would be good?"
Halifax - "We'll get back to you"
Halifax - "Sorry Adam, we've tried, computer says no."
If full time could have been offered then it would have been interesting to see the outcome (especially OBs take on our future) but it's kind of a moot point now isn't it?
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| Well I know nothing was ever mentioned about us going full time. The only thing that cost Fax was hesitation in having to release players to free up space on the cap.
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| Quote ="Ste100Centurions"This is what I like to refer to as [iSelective Memory[/i , Leigh finished 3rd bottom, safe in any [iNormal League[/i , yet due to RFL Expansionists & having the French in the Division *who were exempt just as Catalan had been in SL* we were thrust down into that false position.
What I will say to Bulls fans or those of the rest of Championship RL is that Championship RL is very strong, way beyond the level that most SL fans perceive it to be, while SL appears weaker than ever before.
There is [iNo Shame[/i in playing Championship RL, yes the top Clubs aspire to SL & always will but there is enough quality here to enjoy the game.
All of RL Land is crying out for meaningful change whereby consistently dominant Clubs are not excluded from the top table as they have been *not just Leigh* & where Clubs who have big or at least solid core support are rewarded with opportunities.
3 things need to happen IMHO.
1. Auto Promotion for 1st Place.
2. Scrap dual registration
3. Every Club from SL & Championship to run a full Academy team.
4. 2nd place Championship play off v 11th SL *Home & Away*
OK, 4 ... 4 things need to happen.
5. Wakefield expelled from SL
OK, 5 .... 5 things need to happen.
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You had a chance last year, just bottled it again when you played the big boys in the big games.
Whilst I have the floor, sincere thanks for the loan of your rented stadium for the CUP SEMI-FINAL next Saturday and we'll see you in the Middle 8's....oh, wait a minute...
Good luck to the true Bradford Fans by the way, sport can indeed be cruel, just ask any Leigh Fan.
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| I think that their fragile confidence just wasn't up to it. And when no-one took charge it was a downward spiral to another clueless, passionless defeat.
Despite easily beating the lower teams, when it actually comes to picking up their game against a confident and well drilled unit its seen that there's no real leader out there, no tactics (apart from drive it up the middle against a huge Fev pack. Its like General Melchett "...And that is what is so brilliant about it. It will catch the watchful Hun totally off guard. Doing exactly what we've done eighteen times before will be the last thing they expect us to do this time...."icon_wink.gif, sloth like PTB and line speed, and a complete lack of using the winger. Those wingers that got us closest to scoring in the game in the first 10 minutes; then what? Don't pass to them again. That Caro who is on a rich vein of form? Don't pass to him. Keep it driving up the middle and bouncing off fev players.
I know he has his fans but I just don't see what respective coaches see in Danny Addy. Apart from being a jack-of-all-positions, he excels in none. His passing is pedestrian, his tackling appalling, his tactical vision is awful. Hell, he is only kicking as he is the best of a very bad bunch of kickers!. Playing him at hooker was an enormous mistake.
Or maybe they really couldn't be d. I'm sure many players are off at the end of the season and really don't care about some grueling matches in the middle 8's. They get paid anyway, and if Bradford aren't anywhere at the end of the season they will be at Hudderfield or Hull KR or Toronto anyway next year.
The quality on paper is so much more than it is on the pitch, and I can't wait to get rid of these big-time-charlies to develop players who actually seem to show a pride in the shirt, and show the passion which has been lacking so much so often this season. At least until we have to sell them.
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| Hope this is a blessing in disguise and we can have a large clear out, the majority of the team are what where relegated and haven't had a winning mentality for a few years now, and clearing out the deadwood (including players who are contracted else where is a start), i echo those who have said to only play the players we have next season, i dont see a problem with this hardly worth bothering with guys who are off stick em in the stand and keep em away from the team.
The air of " we are bradford and we can beat who we want, when we want" is smashed and broken and good riddance to it, the false belief that we just need to turn up and win needed to go and we have seen it most of last year and pretty much all of this, we ran Leigh very close in game where players actually bothered to turn up and have a go but for the rest a poor, poor showing from professional players, think this does stem from the Lowes mindset that its a long pre-season, that may be but the fans have paid alot of money to watch this shower and no longer may it continue.
28-30 players with a loanee here or there is there are injuries is more than enough to at least finish in the top 3, being out enthused is a huge issue and we need some real beef up front to sort this, 5 props i think is our minimum Crossley + Lauaki id probably try and keep hold of especially if clough and clarke are on the way out, then 2 others from lower teams int he league or even if Hudds are relegated we might have the change to cherry pick some of theirs.
We have a strong spine with Moss, Chilsolm, Pryce? Charnock?, AOB, Lumb, Clare, Caro, Welham and Ryan we should have a decent platform to build around, our forwards need to shape up and know what is needed from them.
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| AOB? You're joking, aren't you? I was just astonished to read that there was absolutely no reason at all for AOB not playing in our biggest game of the year, except the seemingly mad whimsy that if Addy played instead then his "extra size" would somehow be better for us than AOB's brain, pace and SL ability.
I frankly can't believe it. AOB has been for me our leading light in a poor year, and I had assumed that there was some good reason why he wasn't selected. To have been told that he didn't have enough assets to prevent him being totally dropped in favour of 'a bloke that's a bit chunkier than you' is a bit like Lowes at his worst. Not only that, a guy who is reportedly leaving, as opposed to one who's committed himself to the club.
Oh dear. Well, sadly for me while Smith can clearly coach, that has to be one of the most ridiculous decisions of the last few seasons, and that's saying something as we have seen plenty.
What must AOB have thought, and be thinking now? Am I good enough to play in the Coconut Cup?
The ramifications of Sunday may have led to the leading lights of AOB & Co. departing anyway, but now I wouldn't blame AOB one bit if he wanted out. Smith apologising and saying he knows now it was a big mistake is not really worth even stating.
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| Rovers won that game because we wanted it more no other reason, the Bradford team much better on paper and that would sss me right off if i supported bradford
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| You may have noticed some of us aren't exactly jumping for joy at the moment.
Perhaps you should enjoy the win and the play offs now and leave us in peace. Fev were deserved winners.
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| Quote ="Rotherham Fev Fan"1. Its not the official clock.
2. The clock runs when the ref stops the clock then when he waves play back on the clock is reset at the correct time when the ref called time off.'"
as indicated by the countdown to zero by the fev fans and the hooter didn't go cos the clock was reset ![Smile icon_smile.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_smile.gif)
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| Quote ="spener"as indicated by the countdown to zero by the fev fans and the hooter didn't go cos the clock was reset
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I refer to point 1 ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| Quote ="gingdong"Rovers won that game because we wanted it more no other reason,..'"
That's right, the Bulls players weren't bothered about being relegated to the Tinpot Trophy, or the club losing £3/4m in funding +, the odds of becoming part-time, no crack at Leeds, Hudds etc. in the proper playoffs. Aye, that sounds as plausible as your usual drivel. You could tell from their reaction at the end that they couldn't give a shoite.
Nope, the possibility it was just that Fev are and were currently the better team can be safely excluded. Thanks for clearing it up.
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| Quote ="Fr13daY"
The quality on paper is so much more than it is on the pitch, and I can't wait to get rid of these big-time-charlies to develop players who actually seem to show a pride in the shirt, and show the passion which has been lacking so much so often this season. At least until we have to sell them.'"
Yeah like Liverpool boss Jurgen Klopp says he wants players that will “push the train, not jump on the running train”.
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| Quote ="spener"as indicated by the countdown to zero by the fev fans and the hooter didn't go cos the clock was reset
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That was quite the comedy moment. The announcer reminds everyone that the clock on the scoreboard is not the official time, immediately followed by a load of fans totally ignoring him and counting it down to zero.
It was up there with the announcement of the attendance figure, which was presumably for the benefit of any HMRC people in the crowd. Just to let them know obviously, nothing untoward. That particular announcement had the whole stadium and both sets of fans in stitches.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"That's right, the Bulls players weren't bothered about being relegated to the Tinpot Trophy, or the club losing £3/4m in funding +, the odds of becoming part-time, no crack at Leeds, Hudds etc. in the proper playoffs. Aye, that sounds as plausible as your usual drivel. You could tell from their reaction at the end that they couldn't give a shoite.
Nope, the possibility it was just that Fev are and were currently the better team can be safely excluded. Thanks for clearing it up.'"
There is a difference between simply wanting it and putting your body on the line to get it.
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| Quote ="HamsterChops"That was quite the comedy moment. The announcer reminds everyone that the clock on the scoreboard is not the official time, immediately followed by a load of fans totally ignoring him and counting it down to zero.
It was up there with the announcement of the attendance figure, which was presumably for the benefit of any HMRC people in the crowd. Just to let them know obviously, nothing untoward. That particular announcement had the whole stadium and both sets of fans in stitches.'" didn't it just ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
What did you reckon? 6.5-7k?
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| Quote ="gingdong"Rovers won that game because we wanted it more no other reason, the Bradford team much better on paper and that would sss me right off if i supported bradford'" not as simplistic as that suggy
I genuine think smith was niaive and showed his inexperience. Both in his team selection and game plan. He was outcoached on sunday.
Sharpy didnt bother speculating on what bradford were doing. He got fev concentrating on their own game.
His game plan involved every player having a job to do as part of that plan and they executed it nigh on perfectly.
Im sure they wanted it. Im sure they were prepared to committ full tilt to the cause. But they were also very well coached sunday.
And my shoulder still hurts you idiot!!!! ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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